58 –The Reason Why Most Churches Teach People That Jesus Is God. (Includes Review and Self Test) 

Who’s Testimony is Right About ***Jesus ***? SBT-Has The Facts -- For You To

Feel a Part of What Was Discussed For The Nicene Council Members To Come To That Conclusion.

SBT has started with an unbiased Conclusion. Read this Important Introduction. We Are In The Communications Age –

This Means YOU Have Access to Historical Truths Never Available Before to the General Common Public.

 

The Nicene Creeds Essentially (Declared) Concluded That Jesus Had To Be God Because of The Things He Performed---

and They Concluded That Only GOD Can Be Their Savior. You Decide? It is your Free-Will Study- The unbiased

Conclusion Starts a few lines below--and You Can Study The Linked Facts. Get Both Views in                         Examples-1and 2.                     

Example-1 Quoting Jesus- For whosoever shall save his life shall lose it: and whosoever shall lose his life for my sake shall find it. What emperor or General ever announced a proposition like that? These words forcibly imply, even demand, an understanding that Christ is GOD. Only GOD could make good on such a promise. Says BCC open Commentary on Matt 16:24-open BCC Matt 16:25. 16:26. Example-2 John5-26-17-30 –Commentary --the R278 Jews making R280 Himself (JESUS) equal with God. open John5-26-17-30.          Verse 26 "For R300 just as the Father has life in Himself, even so He gave R301 to the Son also to have life in Himself;                     The Main Question To Decide Is. –Did the Nicene Creed Makers know more about Jesus then He did of Himself?                       

And always keep in mind that the Nicene Council Members did not have the Printed Bible as We have Today For Reference--All they had was Scrolls and Rolls hand Written in all Capital Letters with No Separation of Words --Paragraphs or any punctuation marks –Details in AllCaps.htm

You have the right and the Free-Will gift of God to examine all that this Library has made accessible for you –as FREEasGOD.htmCompare Acts  17:11 and- Imitate.htm. CommunicationsAge.htm. Who’s Testimony is Right About Jesus ***Jesus’ *** or others?

SBT Conclusion –Then You Can Study The Linked Facts-Unbiased  Conclusion Start—

Between the Orthodox and the Arian view one can see more than the surface issues of a created versus an uncreated Son. The Orthodox view described grace as the entry into a stable order in which creation had reached a new redeemed existence. This was in harmony with a view of Christ as unchangeable and the eternal Son of God. The Arian view saw grace as the empowerment by which people might advance morally. This was in harmony with the Arian view of a created savior that had advanced himself, and was rewarded for his obedience. Therefore, how people lived their lives, in terms of salvation and holiness, was determined by these views, each essentially linked to its particular party's Christology. Bishops were confronted, then, with two systems that, although each had roots extending back into earliest Christianity, were essentially new and different from the Christianity of previous centuries, and offered very different interpretations of the Scriptures and reality.

Such, then, is early Arianism in its barest form. It was for Arius' opponents a horrible system of beliefs, and Arius' two chief opponents, Athanasius of Alexandria and Alexander of Alexandria, found no shortage of words in their opposition to it. Yet, even those who early on in the movement found fault in the teachings of Arius and his followers, would have to admit that Arianism had an appealing, rational logic to it. As can be ascertained from above, it did, to some extent, bring about a return of Christian doctrine to the Jewish notion of God as 'artisan.' Arius' doctrine of a 'created' Son certainly seemed to be in harmony with both the Old and New Testaments, which still showed an influence of a more distinctly Jewish notion of God. Arianism was popular because it had dramatically simplified the confusing Greek notion of God as 'begetter,' and put an end to the vague teachings of Origen that had predominated in the Church until Arius' day. Whether Arianism was biblically accurate or not is debatable; for the simple layman and the learned intellectual alike, however, it made sense.

From 4points FourMainPoints.htm —also see Ulfilas  To Feel More a Part of What Was Discussed

Study Facts (1)-in FourMainPoints.htm and all the below to get the whole story.

(learned intelligence). Man and Spirit Beings (angels) are Made in God’s image—Intelligent Sentient Beings. Man is Capable of Perceiving God’s Existence and His only begotten Son’s Existence through the Inspired Holy Scriptures Only (Biblical-Theology only with no unbiblical words) Plus The Order of how Life and LIes.htm 30.htm came into existence as recorded Through the Holy Scriptures. BiblicalLOGISTICS of God being alone at one time and then deciding to (cause) Bring Forth Life –(Prov8-22.htm--Psalms36-9.htm) With God’s --FirstBorn Son Which helped Him construct all Sentient Beings and material things that humans can see and can not see.PreExistenceOfChrist.htm-JesusHasTwoBeginningsBothScriptural.htm

Who’s Testimony is Right About ***Jesus *** Hebrews 5:8

Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from the things which He suffered. 5:9

And having been made perfect, He became to all those who obey Him the source of eternal salvation, Open In Context

                                               

                  Arius pointed out many scriptural facts- -Arianism –

But-The Main Study IsThese Articles DenyingJesusLife.htm is DenyingJesus.htm

and How Life Started is not about Arianism -

It is about Jesus’ own Testimony---And That is what counts for truth. Jesus Said

I-- I have come into the world, to R1410 testify to the truth. Everyone R1411 who is of the truth hears My voice." JN 18:37

Did Jesus Lie When He Quotes The Word I. You have to Decide BiblesTwoTypes.htm-- GodtheSon.htm

Main Question To Decide Is. –Did the Nicene Creed Makers know more about Jesus then He did of Himself? (learned intelligence) Did Jesus Lie about what He Learned? Was Jesus a Liar about Who He Said He Was and Is?---Rev-1.1 Versus the incomprehensible Jn 1:1 Rendering –the word was God That Most Modern Bible Publishers Print ---Compared (JOHN1onePLUS.htm) to the word was a god----which is comprehensible and in harmony with verses Jn 1:14 and Verse 1:18. ***Jn 1-18*** has been changed in many new Bibles.

Open- JOHN3-16.htm & ComputerCheck.htm OnlyBegotten.htm

Study JOHN1onePLUS.htm  and Rev-1.1 –The  ALPHAandTheOMEGA.htm—And The EternalSonOfGod.htm---TheEternalOne.htm.

DenyingJesusLife.htm is DenyingJesus.htm Which One Is Not Real - SatanOrJesus.htm-- AAIsJesusRealToYouPart2.htm-- AFact.htm

And always keep in mind that the Nicene Council Members did not have the Printed Bible as We have Today –For Reference –

All they had was Scrolls and Rolls hand Written in all Capital Letters with No Separation of Words --Paragraphs or any punctuation marks –Deetails in AllManuscriptsWereWrittenInAllCaps.htm—

Who’s Testimony is Right ***Jesus’*** or The Trinitarian/Oneness Commentaries.

Jesus Testifies about Himself. Study-JesusTestifiesPlus.htm  And GodsTestimonyOfHisRealSon.htm

Who’s Testimony is Right About ***Jesus ***

                    Some Imaginations of God’s Head Study Images.htm

Trinitarian/Oneness Commentators down through the years have done their best to try make many verses insinuate (imply) that Jesus is GOD; most possibly Out of Fear of being executed Example –open Notable_Corruptions_of_Scripture Scroll down and read under Historical background of Sir Isaac Newton On The Bible Also open Sir Isaac Newton On The Bible and some Bible Publishers have printed spurious verses. Plus more in 30.htm and 36.htm Notable_Corruptions_of_Scripture’  

JOHN3-16 Begotten Is No Longer In Many New Bibles

The Most Popular Verse in All of Proclaimed Christianity---John 3-16 John3-16.htm CommunicationsAge.htm---

What Happen to the Words Only Begotten

 (in John 1-18) in Many New  Bibles---List in Study ComputerCheck.htm and  John3-16.htm

 

 Substance." (Substance in Heb1-3.htm) Greek Homoousion

The word that made Jesus God Study Homoousion ( plus History of Constantine 1&2 in C + C1.htm

To The Original Text and You Can Learn Biblical Mythology---- Images

Compare Biblical-Theology.htm of GOD--Mythology

The False--Images Of God’s Head Study Images of God’s Head.

  Joh 10:30  I and the Father are one.             

 Oneness in Truth That Jesus has with His God and Father –

-Then We All Will Be One With The Father in Truth.

There are clear differences between mental perceptions and physical things. Oneness.htm

Is oneness in the Bible 8.htm and 5.htm

 

Plus Others-are Apologetics-- And Christian Institutions --Here is a Very important note.

Always Keep In Mind That Most all If Not all Proclaimed Christian Groups and individuals Base their

Statement of Faith (s) and/or Beliefs *from* the Bible Translations They Rely Upon *for *Truth.There

are Two Types of Christian Bibles Study BiblesTwoTypes.htm -- Open PlusOthers.htm

Statement of Faith (s) STATEMENTsAboutManyChurchesBeliefsUpdated.htm--

 

If you are reading from a Bible Translation that makes God a mystery –try reading from the Bibles in B2

and check all Bibles Preface.htm.   Is God a Mystery According to The Scriptures?

Who Makes God A Mystery---Study--MysteryVersesPlusMore.htm 

And Free-Will in BottomLine in CommentaryNote.htm—Plus what is Valid in Biblical-Theology of GOD

Who’s Testimony is Right About ***Jesus ***

Theology of GOD in Harmony from Gen 1:26 3:22 Prov8-22 to Rev 1:1 11:1 Rev22-16-21 and Heb 13:8.Matt 28:18 .

Tradition Plus Verses –2 of 3—1 is MysteryVersesPlusMore.htm 3 is Imitate.htm

 

Who Do You Imitate -----Man Made Traditions --or Jesus’ Teacchings and

His Apostles Teachings –Rev Rev22-16-21.htm 22:16-6-19 ( click [In Context|)

                                

If You Believe a Lie You will Positively Die—

as did Adam and Eve—Gen 3-3-4;19 If we were perfect we wouldn’t need to be Christians or Jesus’ ransom.

Rev 21:8

"But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters

and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."

If you believe a lie and then teach that lie YOU become a liar. More details in Study 30.htm and

BiblesTwoTypes.htm-- Study Lies.htm  and the meaning of being Blasphemous.htm

 

Review and Self Test--in page 59.htm-- But there is a little more to read.

 

Open 2 Tim 3:17- 3:16

FREEasGOD.htm

Jn 5:30 NASB

"I can do nothing * on My own initiative. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.

Jn 8:28

So Jesus said, "When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, and I do nothing on My own initiative, but I speak these things as the Father taught Me.

Jn 8:42

Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and have come from God, for I have not even come on My own initiative, but He sent Me.

Jn 10:18

"No one has taken it away from Me, but I lay it down on My own initiative. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This commandment I received from My Father."

Jn 12:49

"For I did not