58–The Reason Why Most Churches Teach People That Jesus Is God. (Includes Review and Self Test)
Who’s Testimony is Right About***Jesus***? Jesus’ Your’s? Or the The Nicene Council Members?
SBT-Has The
Facts--For You To Feel a Part of What Was Discussed For The Nicene
Council Members To Come To That Conclusion.
SBT has started with an unbiased Conclusion. Read this Important Introduction. We Are In The Communications Age –
This Means YOU Have Access to Historical Truths Never Available Before to the General Common Public.
The Nicene Council Members Reason to their Logic
The Nicene Creeds Essentially (Declared) Concluded That Jesus Had To Be God Because of the Things He Performed
And They Concluded That Only GOD Can Be Their Savior. You Decide? It is your
Free-Will Study-
It appears
that certain scriptures were quoted but not by numbers—BECAUSE-the Bible had
been written that way yet
See AllCaps.htm-- more on that a few lines down.
The unbiased
Conclusion Starts a few lines below--and You Can Study The Linked Facts. Get Both Views
in
Dictionary.reference.com/browse/Logic-a particular method
of reasoning or argumentation:
(We were unable to follow
his logic). Or
the
system or principles of reasoning applicable to any branch of knowledge or
study
Examples 1 and 2
Example-1 Quoting Jesus- For whosoever shall save his life shall lose it: and
whosoever shall lose his life for my sake shall find it. What emperor or
General ever announced a proposition like that? These words forcibly imply, even demand, an understanding that Christ is GOD. Only GOD could make good on such a promise. According to
Open BCC Matt 16:25. 16:26. Example-2 John5-26-17-30 –Commentary --the R278 Jews making R280 Himself (JESUS) equal with God. open John5-26-17-30. Verse 26 "For R300 just as the Father has life in Himself, even so He gave R301 to the Son also to have life in Himself; The Main Question
To Decide Is. –Did the Nicene Creed Makers know more about Jesus then He
did of Himself?
And always keep in mind that the Nicene
Council Members did not have the Printed Bible as
We have Today For Reference--All they had was Scrolls and Rolls hand Written in all
Capital Letters with No Separation of Words --Paragraphs or any punctuation
marks –Details in AllCaps.htm
You have the right and the Free-Will gift of God
to examine all that this Library has
made accessible for you –as FREEasGOD.htmCompare Acts 17:11
and- Imitate.htm. CommunicationsAge.htm. Who’s
Testimony is Right About Jesus ***Jesus’ *** or others?
SBT Conclusion
–Then You Can Study The Linked Facts-Unbiased Conclusion Start—
Between the Orthodox and the
Arian view one can see more than the
surface issues of a created versus an uncreated Son. The Orthodox view described grace as the entry into a
stable order in which creation had reached a new redeemed existence. This was
in harmony with a view of Christ as unchangeable and the eternal Son of God.
The Arian
view saw grace as the empowerment by which people might advance
morally. This was in harmony with the Arian view of a created savior
that had advanced himself, and was rewarded for his obedience.
Therefore, how people lived their lives, in terms of salvation and holiness,
was determined by these views, each essentially linked to its particular
party's Christology. Bishops were confronted, then, with two systems that,
although each had roots extending back into earliest Christianity, were
essentially new and different from the Christianity of previous centuries, and
offered very different interpretations of the Scriptures and reality.
Such, then, is early Arianism in its barest form. It was for Arius' opponents a horrible system of beliefs, and Arius' two chief opponents, Athanasius of Alexandria and Alexander of Alexandria, found no shortage of words in their opposition to it. Yet, even those who early on in the movement found fault in the teachings of Arius and his followers, would have to admit that Arianism had an appealing, rational logic to it. As can be ascertained from above, it did, to some extent, bring about a return of Christian doctrine to the Jewish notion of God as 'artisan.' Arius' doctrine of a 'created' Son certainly seemed to be in harmony with both the Old and New Testaments, which still showed an influence of a more distinctly Jewish notion of God. Arianism was popular because it had dramatically simplified the confusing Greek notion of God as 'begetter,' and put an end to the vague teachings of Origen that had predominated in the Church until Arius' day. Whether Arianism was biblically accurate or not is debatable; for the simple layman and the learned intellectual alike, however, it made sense.
From 4points FourMainPoints.htm —also
see Ulfilas To Feel More a Part of What Was Discussed
Study Facts (1)-in FourMainPoints.htm and all the below to get the whole story.
(learned
intelligence). Man and Spirit Beings (angels) are Made in
God’s image—Intelligent Sentient Beings. Man
is Capable of Perceiving God’s Existence and His only begotten Son’s Existence
through the Inspired Holy Scriptures Only (Biblical-Theology only with no unbiblical words) Plus The Order of how Life and LIes.htm 30.htm came into existence as
recorded Through the Holy Scriptures. BiblicalLOGISTICS of God being alone at one time and then deciding to (cause) Bring Forth Life –(Prov8-22.htm--Psalms36-9.htm)
With God’s --FirstBorn Son Which
helped Him construct all Sentient Beings and material things that
humans can see and can not see.PreExistenceOfChrist.htm-JesusHasTwoBeginningsBothScriptural.htm
Who’s
Testimony is Right About ***Jesus *** Hebrews
5:8
Although
He was a Son,
He learned
obedience
from the things which He suffered.
5:9
And having been made perfect,
He became
to all
those
who obey
Him the source
of eternal
salvation,
Open In
Context
Arius pointed out many scriptural facts- -Arianism –
But-The Main Study IsThese Articles DenyingJesusLife.htm
is DenyingJesus.htm
and How Life Started is not about Arianism
-
It is about Jesus’
own Testimony---And That is what counts for truth.
Jesus Said
I-- I
have come into the world, to R1410
testify to the truth. Everyone R1411
who is of the truth hears My voice." JN 18:37
Did
Jesus Lie When He Quotes The Word I. You have to Decide
BiblesTwoTypes.htm-- GodtheSon.htm
Main Question To Decide Is. –Did
the Nicene Creed Makers know more about Jesus then He did of Himself? (learned
intelligence) Did Jesus Lie about what He Learned? Was Jesus
a Liar about Who He Said He Was and Is?---Rev-1.1 Versus the incomprehensible Jn 1:1 Rendering –the word was God That Most Modern Bible Publishers Print ---Compared (JOHN1onePLUS.htm)
to the word was a god----which is comprehensible and in harmony with verses Jn 1:14 and Verse 1:18. ***Jn 1-18*** has been
changed in many new Bibles.
Open- JOHN3-16.htm & ComputerCheck.htm OnlyBegotten.htm
Study JOHN1onePLUS.htm and Rev-1.1 –The ALPHAandTheOMEGA.htm—And The EternalSonOfGod.htm---TheEternalOne.htm.
DenyingJesusLife.htm
is DenyingJesus.htm Which One Is Not Real - SatanOrJesus.htm-- AAIsJesusRealToYouPart2.htm-- AFact.htm
And always keep in mind that the Nicene Council Members
did not have
the Printed Bible as We have Today –For Reference –
All they had was Scrolls
and Rolls hand Written in all Capital Letters with No Separation of Words
--Paragraphs or any punctuation marks –
Who’s Testimony is
Right ***Jesus’*** or The
Trinitarian/Oneness Commentaries.
Jesus Testifies about Himself. Study-JesusTestifiesPlus.htm And GodsTestimonyOfHisRealSon.htm
Who’s Testimony is
Right About ***Jesus ***
Some Imaginations of God’s Head Study
Images.htm
Trinitarian/Oneness Commentators down through the years have done their best to try make many verses insinuate (imply) that Jesus is GOD; most possibly Out of Fear of being executed Example –open Notable_Corruptions_of_Scripture Scroll down and read under Historical background of Sir Isaac Newton On The Bible Also open Sir Isaac Newton On The Bible and some Bible Publishers have printed spurious verses. Plus more in 30.htm and 36.htm Notable_Corruptions_of_Scripture’
JOHN3-16
Begotten Is No Longer In Many
New Bibles
The Most Popular Verse in All of
Proclaimed Christianity---John 3-16 John3-16.htm CommunicationsAge.htm---
What Happen to the Words Only Begotten
(in John 1-18) in
Many New Bibles---List in Study ComputerCheck.htm and
John3-16.htm
Substance." (Substance in Heb1-3.htm) Greek Homoousion
The word that made Jesus
God Study Homoousion ( plus History
of
To The Original Text and You Can
Learn Biblical Mythology---- Images
Compare
Biblical-Theology.htm of GOD--Mythology
The False--Images Of
God’s Head Study Images of God’s Head.
Joh
Oneness in Truth That Jesus has with His God and Father –
-Then We All Will Be One With The Father in Truth.
There are clear
differences between mental perceptions and physical things. Oneness.htm
Is oneness in the Bible 8.htm and 5.htm
Plus Others-are Apologetics-- And
Christian Institutions --Here is a Very
important note.
Always Keep In Mind That Most all If Not all Proclaimed
Christian Groups and individuals Base their
Statement of Faith (s) and/or Beliefs *from* the Bible Translations They Rely Upon *for *Truth.There
are Two Types of
Christian Bibles Study BiblesTwoTypes.htm -- Open PlusOthers.htm
Statement
of Faith (s) STATEMENTsAboutManyChurchesBeliefsUpdated.htm--
If you are reading from a Bible
Translation that makes God a mystery –try reading from the Bibles in B2
and check all Bibles Preface.htm. Is God a Mystery
According to The Scriptures?
Who Makes God A Mystery---Study--MysteryVersesPlusMore.htm
And Free-Will in BottomLine in CommentaryNote.htm—Plus what is Valid in Biblical-Theology of GOD
Who’s Testimony is Right
About ***Jesus ***
Theology of GOD in Harmony
from Gen 1:26
3:22
Prov8-22 to Rev 1:1 11:1
Rev22-16-21 and Heb 13:8.Matt
28:18
.
Tradition Plus Verses –2 of 3—1 is MysteryVersesPlusMore.htm 3 is Imitate.htm
Who Do You Imitate
-----Man Made Traditions --or Jesus’
His Apostles Teachings –Rev Rev22-16-21.htm 22:16-6-19 ( click [In Context|)
If You Believe a Lie You will Positively Die—
as did Adam
and Eve—Gen
Rev 21:8
"But for the cowardly
and unbelieving
and abominable
and murderers
and immoral
persons
and sorcerers
and idolaters
and all liars,
their part
will be in the lake that
burns
with fire
and brimstone,
which
is the second
death."
If you believe a lie and then teach that lie YOU become a liar. More
details in Study 30.htm and
BiblesTwoTypes.htm-- Study Lies.htm and the meaning of being Blasphemous.htm
Review and Self Test--in page 59.htm--
But there is a little more to read.
Jn 5:30
"I can do nothing * on My own initiative. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.
Jn 8:28
So Jesus said, "When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, and I do nothing on My own initiative, but I speak these things as the Father taught Me.
Jn 8:42
Jesus said to
them, "If
God
were your Father,
you would love
Me, for I proceeded
forth
and have
come
from God,
for I have not even come on My own initiative,
but He sent
Me.
Jn 10:18
"No one has taken it away from Me, but I lay it down on My own initiative. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This commandment I received from My Father."
Jn 12:49
"For I did not speak on My own initiative, but the Father Himself who sent Me has given Me a commandment as to what to say and what to speak.
Jn 14:10
"Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me?
The words that I say to you I do not speak on My own initiative, but the Father abiding in Me does His works.
Jn 16:13
"But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come.
Jn 18:34
Jesus answered, "Are you saying this on your own initiative, or did others tell you about Me?"
Colossians
2:8 Titus 1:14, a doctrine, sentiment, or custom not found in the
Bible, but transmitted orally from generation to generation from some presumed
inspired authority. In patriarchal times, much that was valuable and
obligatory was thus preserved. But tradition has
long been superseded by the successive and completed revelations of God’s will
which form the inspired Scriptures, Some Other
Verses Quoted 2 Thessalonians
2:15 3:6, Revelation 22:19. Matthew 15:1-20 Mark 7:1-13. Isaiah 8:20
Since The Completed Bible there have been
only Translators and Commentators-- Rev22-16-21.
The apostles were essentially saying no more
Doctrines are needed .What is needed (Today) is
Good Bible Teachers to explain the Words God
has already provided for us.
Open 2Th 2:15 - [ In Context | Read Chapter | Discuss this Verse ]
[ Original:
Greek | Multi-Translation | Make
Poster ]
So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you
were taught,
whether by
word of
mouth or
by letter from us.
Tradition Plus Verses –2 of 3—1 is MysteryVersesPlusMore.htm 3 is Imitate.htm
Where Were the
Nicene Council Members When God Was Creating Things. Open Where.htm
Nicene Creeds In BiblePublishersAccountableToWho.htm
2 Pet1:20
1John 5:9
for the testimony
of God
is this, that He has testified
concerning
His Son
(Mt 3:17Mr 1:11 Lu 3:22)
Cross References Lu 9:36 Jn 12:28, 12:29. Pet 1:17 Full article in TrinityReferenceLibrary2.htm
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Jehovah is the Source.htm
behind all life and that includes Jesus |
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STATEMENTsAboutManyChurchesBeliefsUpdated.htm |
Denying Jesus Life DenyingJesusLife.htm is DenyingJesus.htm
(Open)-AFact.htm--Life.htm and AntiChrist.htm
Who Makes God A Mystery-- --MysteryVersesPlusMore.htm Plus Which One Is
Not Real—Satan or Jesus SatanOrJesus.htm
(
(CEV) But when someone doesn't say this about
Jesus, you know that person has a spirit that doesn't come from God and is the
enemy of Christ. You knew that this enemy was coming into the world and now is
already here.
(GNB) But anyone who denies this about Jesus does
not have the Spirit from God. The spirit that he has is from the Enemy of
Christ; you heard that it would come, and now it is here in the world already.
(GW) But every person who doesn't declare that
Jesus Christ has come as a human has a spirit that isn't from God. This is the
spirit of the antichrist that you have heard is coming. That spirit is already
in the world.
(
(KJV) And every spirit that confesseth
not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that
it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
(KJV+) And2532
every3956 spirit4151 that3739
confesseth3670 not3361 that Jesus2424
Christ5547 is come2064 in1722
the flesh4561 is2076 not3756
of1537 God:2316 and2532
this5124 is2076 that3588
spirit of antichrist,500 whereof3739
ye have heard191 that3754 it should come;2064 and2532
even now3568 already2235 is2076
it in1722 the3588 world.2889
(LITV) And every spirit which does not confess that
Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is
not from God; and this is the antichrist which you heard is coming, and now is
already in the world.
(MKJV) and every spirit that does not confess that
Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the antichrist you heard is
coming, and even now is already in the world.
(MSG) And everyone who refuses to confess faith in
Jesus has nothing in common with God. This is the spirit of antichrist that you
heard was coming. Well, here it is, sooner than we thought!
(NSB) Every spirit that does not confess Jesus is
not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist that you heard was coming
and now it is already in the world.
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The KJV Strong's Version |
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Book of 1 John |
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Chapter 4 - Read Chapter |
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4:3 - [In
Context And
every
spirit
that
confesseth (5719)
not
that Jesus
Christ
is come
(5756)
in
the flesh
is
(5748)
not
of
God:
and
this
is
(5748)
that spirit of antichrist,
whereof
ye have heard
(5754)
that
it should come
(5736);
and even
now
already
is it
(5748)
in
the world. |
John
10:1-18
1 "Truly, truly I tell you, the person who
does not enter the sheepfold through the gate, but climbs in by some other way,
is a thief and a bandit. 2 The one who enters through the
gate is the shepherd of the sheep. 3 It is to him the
gatekeeper opens the gate, and it is his voice the sheep hear. He calls his own
sheep by name and leads them out. 4 When he has driven out
all his own, he goes ahead of them, and the sheep follow him because they
recognize his voice. 5 They will never follow a stranger,
but will run away from him because they do not recognize the voice of strangers."
6 Jesus used this illustration with them, but they didn't
understand what he was saying to them. 7 So again Jesus
said, "Truly, truly I tell you, I am the gate for the sheep. 8 All
who came before me F179 are
thieves and bandits, but the sheep did not listen to them. 9 I
am the gate. If anyone enters through me, he will be saved. He will come in and
go out and find pasture. R281 10 The thief comes only to steal, slaughter, and destroy. I
have come that they may have life, and have it abundantly. 11 "I
am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down F180 his
life for the sheep. R282 12 The
hired hand, who is not the shepherd and does not own the sheep, sees the wolf
coming, deserts the sheep, and runs away. So the wolf snatches them and
scatters them. R283 13 For he is a hired hand, and the sheep do not matter to him. 14 I
am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me, R284 15 just
as the Father knows me and I know the Father. And I lay down F181 my life
for the sheep. R285 16 I have other sheep that do not belong
to this fold. I must lead these also, and they will listen to my voice. So
there will be one flock and one shepherd. R286 17 This is why the Father loves me, because I lay down my life
in order to take it back again. R287 18 No one is taking it from me; I lay it down of my
own free will. I have the authority to lay it down, and I have the authority to
take it back again. This is a command that I have received from my
Father." R288
Read more about a different spirit in
Trindirty.htm
Study FREEasGOD.htm
The
Holy Verses Clearly Read that Jesus’ Father and God made (created) His only
begotten Son as the First of His Creations.
Theology in Harmony
from Gen 1:26
3:22
Prov8-22 to Rev 1:1 11:1
Rev22-16-21 and Heb 13:8.Matt 28:18 .
God has made HIM
Da 9:25
"So you are to know and
discern
that from the issuing
of a decree
to restore
and rebuild
Jerusalem
until
Messiah
the Prince
there will be seven weeks
and sixty-two
* weeks;
it will be built
again,
with plaza
and moat,
even in times
of distress.
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Acts
"Therefore let all the house of Israel know for certain that God has made Him both Lord and Christ --this Jesus whom you crucified."
asfalwv oun ginwsketw
(5720) pav oikov Israhl oti kai kurion auton kai Xriston epoihsen
(5656) o qeov, touton ton Ihsoun on umeiv estaurwsate. (5656)
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