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The question here
is raised whether such charismatic gifts as existed in the early Church are in operation today. Paul writes earlier
in 1 Corinthians ( makes a comment
on the use of satanic inspired gifts about the middle to late second century:
“In his unbridled ambition to reach the top laid himself open to the
adversary, was filled with spiritual excitement and suddenly fell into a kind
of trance and unnatural ecstasy. He raved, and began to chatter and talk
nonsense, prophesying in a way that conflicted with the practice of the
Church handed down generation by generation from the beginning… Some were
annoyed, regarding him as possessed, a demoniac in the grip of a spirit of
error.” Eusebius continues to record a following: “… women whom he filled
with the sham spirit, so that they chattered crazily.” And continuing a bit
further: “But the pseudo-prophet speaks in a state of unnatural ecstasy… He
begins with voluntary ignorance and ends in involuntary psychosis.” (Pages
218ff) In From Friends of
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GiftsToday Compare UntitledGiftOfTongues.htm 1 Corinthians 13:8-13 – Love and Maturity Open Commentary N0.s 724 thru 737 in COMPASSIONATE AFFECTION AS THE KEY TO UNITY --http://www.nazarene-friends.org For more open TonguesNazareneFriendsCommentary. Other References Open and Study For Who is Eusebius Open and Study EusebiusANDTongues.htm Eusebius Is the same person that baptism Constantine the Great Eusebius baptised Constantine the Great in
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To get the truth
to people before the Inspired Written Word Was Completed—that didn’t
Speak Hebrew or Greek---English didn’t exist until about the 5th
Century- Open and Study English-HistoryOf.htm
English
A Changed and Changing
Language.
Tongues -The question here is raised whether such charismatic gifts as
existed in the early Church are in operation today.
Speaking in Tongues Both Views Cessationism
and Continuationism
For The Detailed
Answers-
Open and Study
the
following commentaries--For did tongues cease
Open and Study Cessationism or Continue Open and Study Continuationism 1Cor13-8-13.htm
The Complete Bible.--Open
and Study
For whatever
was written
in earlier
times
was written
for our instruction,
so
that through
perseverance
and the encouragement
of the Scriptures
we might have
hope.
We are to
live by the Holy Writings it until Jesus comes to rule— Open Rev20-4-6.htm.
The Written Word prepares us for how we will be required to
live under Jesus’ Rule. Nothing More /Nothing Less
Open and
Study 2Tim3-16-17.htm and -Rev22-16-21.htm
God Had Already
Gave Man All The Material Gifts Man Needed When He
Created The Earth
---It Has Been Up To
Man to share its resource Open and Study -Gen1-29-31.htm
What About what
happen to Job.
Job was not an ISREALITE –But a good example—But His
experience was a isolated incident.
Christians Today should not expect what happen to Job will
happen to us.
Open Rev20-4-6.htm.
Use Examples of How God Rewarded the Apostles.
Open and Study 1Tim6-6-12.htm
(1) Most Bible Scholars will agree that
the Greatest Gift given to man is What Jesus did.
(2) Most Bible Scholars will agree that
the Greatest Gift given to modern man is God’s Written Word --The
Complete Bible.
Open
and Study
For whatever
was written
in earlier
times
was written
for our instruction,
so
that through
perseverance
and the encouragement
of the Scriptures
we might have
hope.
We are to
live by the Holy Writings it until Jesus comes to rule— Open Rev20-4-6.htm.
The Written Word prepares us for how we will be required to
live under Jesus’ Rule. Nothing More /Nothing Less
Open and
Study 2Tim3-16-17.htm and -Rev22-16-21.htm
Today God Gives Spiritual Gifts
Jesus and the Apostles didn’t go around giving people
money and material gifts
Open and Study Imitate.htm The ImitateRule.htm
Give Free Matt10-8.htm - Matt7-7plus.htm and True Ministers give to others Free of Charge.
Most Donations Today
That Many Churches receive have been misused.
Favoritism
Some people have always felt that they have a special gift
from God that only a few get---and they get spectacled powerful Gifts
Also Today---But that raises the question is the god of
this world the one behind the Gifts—Compare
13 For such men are false R408 apostles, deceitful R409 workers, disguising themselves as
apostles of Christ. 14
No wonder, for even Satan R410 disguises himself as an angel R411 of light. 15
Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as
servants of righteousness, whose R412 end will be according to their
deeds.
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everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but
he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven {will enter.} R292
22 "Many R293
will say to Me on that R294
day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out
demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?' F132
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FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.' 24 "Therefore
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everyone R298
who hears these words of Mine and acts F133
on them, may F134
be compared to a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 "And
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the rain fell, and the floods F135
came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and {yet} it did not
fall, for it had been founded on the rock. 26 "Everyone
R300 who hears these
words of Mine and does not act F136
on them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. 27 "The
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rain fell, and the floods F137
came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and it fell--and
great was its fall." 28 When F138
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Jesus had finished these words, the R303
crowds were amazed at His teaching; 29 for He was teaching
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But God has Freely given His
Completed Bible Words to all that wish to examine it and live by.
1Ti 2:3 This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
1Ti 2:4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a full
knowledge of the truth.
2Ti
Ti 2:5 There is
one God. There is also one mediator between God and human beings-a human,
Christ Jesus.
1Ti 2:6 He gave
himself as a ransom for all, a fact that was acknowledged at the right time.
Christian Harmony—Is it possible today? God’s Written
Word --The Complete Bible.
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8 Therefore, I want the men to offer prayers in every place,
lifting up holy hands without
being
angry or argumentative. R27
2:8 - [In
Context]
Christian
Harmony and unity—Is it possible today? God’s Written
Word --The Complete Bible.
Christianity Subverted –The True Cause behind All the Division-
Understanding The-WheatOrWeeds.htm
● What did the apostle
Paul mean in saying, “When that which
is complete arrives, that which is partial
will be done away with”?
These words
appear in a setting that highlights the surpassing way of love. We read: “Love
never fails. But whether there are gifts of prophesying, they will be done away
with; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge,
it will be done away with. For we have partial knowledge and we prophesy
partially; but when that which is complete arrives, that which is partial will
be done away with. When I was a babe, I used to speak as a babe, to think as a
babe, to reason as a babe; but now that I have become a man, I have done away
with the traits of a babe. For at present we see in hazy outline by means of a
metal mirror, but then it will be face to face. At present I know partially,
but then I shall know accurately even as I am accurately known.”—1 Cor.
13:8-12.
1Cor 13:8 NAS
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Strong’s Dictionary and Commentaries More Below
Thus
Paul showed that the miraculous gifts of prophesying, knowledge and speaking in
tongues were not permanent. They were to cease. And cease they did. Evidently these gifts
were only imparted in the presence of one or more of the apostles directly
chosen by Jesus Christ. (Acts 2:1, 4, 14; 8:9-20; 10:44-46;
19:6)
(Acts 2:1, 2:4
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19:6) 19:6
And when Paul had laid his hands upon them,
the Holy Spirit came on them, and
they began speaking with tongues and prophesying.
So
with the death of these apostles, impartation of miraculous gifts passed away.
SBT—Note --The Book of Acts –IS ACTS OF THE
APOSTLES----Not acts of others.
In view of the temporary
nature of the miraculous gifts, Paul encouraged Christians at Corinth to pursue
the permanent and surpassing way of love and not to consider those miraculous
gifts as a Christian’s greatest attainment.
Though Paul himself was
endowed with miraculous gifts to a superior degree, he recognized that his
knowledge was but partial. (1 Cor. 13:1, 2; 14:18) (1 Cor 13:2-
He would have to wait until the arrival of “that which is complete” in
order to understand spiritual things fully. In his own case this was not going
to happen during his lifetime on earth.
Upon attaining his heavenly reward, however, he would eventually see the fulfillment
of all Bible prophecy and come to a complete knowledge of Jehovah’s will
and purpose revealed in the Bible. Accordingly, the words “when that which is
complete arrives” must relate to the time when the prophecies of the Bible as
well as God’s will and purpose are fully understood.
1 Cor 14:18
I thank God, I speak in tongues more than you all;
The arrival of “that
which is complete” is not synonymous with gaining the heavenly reward. There is
no indication in Scripture that Jesus Christ reveals everything to members of
his bride immediately upon their entering heaven. Jesus himself had to wait for
his Father to make known certain aspects of His purpose. When on earth, Jesus
said of the day and hour for the execution of divine vengeance: “Concerning
that day or the hour nobody knows, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son,
but the Father.” (Mark
We today are living in the time when
“that which is complete” is due to arrive. The physical facts in fulfillment of
Bible prophecy confirm that Jesus Christ received kingly authority over the
world of mankind in 1914 C.E. (Rev. 6:1-8) Rev.+6%3A1-8
With that event the
“sacred secret” or “mystery” of God was “brought
With that event the “sacred secret”
or “mystery” of God was “brought to a finish,” in the sense that this event
removed the ‘mysterious’ aspect about this kingdom. (Rev. 10:7; 10:7 compare Matthew 13:11;
13:11 Luke 8:10; 8:10 Ephesians 3:3-9; Ephesians+3%3A3-9
Colossians
1:26, 27; 2:2; 4:3; 1 Timothy 3:16.) 1:26
that is, the mystery which has
been hidden from the past
ages and generations, but
has now been manifested to His saints,
1 Tim 3:16
By common confession, great is the mystery of godliness: He who was revealed in the flesh, Was vindicated in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Proclaimed among the nations, Believed on in the world, Taken up in glory.
From that time onward God’s people
have been experiencing a continued increase in spiritual knowledge and in
understanding prophecy. This is in harmony with Daniel 12:4: 12:4 “As for you, O Daniel, make secret the words
and seal up the book, until the time of the end. Many will rove about [in the
book], and the true knowledge will become abundant.” Accordingly, “that which
is complete” refers to the full understanding of God’s purpose as
revealed in the Bible. This
being a time for such increased understanding of God’s Word and the fulfillment
of its prophecies, that “which is complete” must be at hand.—WT QFR:S
1975-2/1-Page 95-6
Favoritism
An Impartial God—A Message
for All
PARAGRAPH 5 Such developments are in keeping
with God’s ways; favoritism is alien to him. After the apostle Peter was helped
by Jehovah to adjust his view of people of the nations, he appreciatively
noted: “For a certainty I perceive that God is not partial, but in every nation
the man that fears him and works righteousness is acceptable to him.” (Acts
10:34, 35; Psalm 145:9 145:9
) 10:34-
10:35
When the apostle Paul,
formerly a persecutor of Christians, declared that God’s “will is that all
sorts of men should be saved,” he reaffirmed that God is free from bias.
(1 Timothy 2:4) 2:4
The Creator’s
impartiality is seen in that the Kingdom hope is open to people of any gender,
race, nationality, or language.
6 This international expansion was
foretold centuries earlier. According to Daniel’s prophecy, “there were given
[to Jesus] rulership and dignity and kingdom, that the peoples, national groups
and languages should all serve even him.” (Daniel 7:14) 7:14
The fact that this magazine is
published in 151 languages and distributed worldwide, enabling you to read
about Jehovah’s Kingdom, reflects the fulfillment of that Bible prophecy.
7 The Bible foretold a time when
people of diverse languages would hear its life-giving message. Describing how
true worship would attract many, Zechariah prophesied: “It will be in those
days that ten men out of all the languages of
the nations will take hold, yes, they will actually take hold of
the skirt of a man who is a Jew [spirit-anointed Christian, part of “the Israel
of God”], saying: ‘We will go with you people, for we have heard that God is
with you people.’” (Zechariah
Reaching People of All Sorts
8 Today, people have become
increasingly mobile. Globalization has opened a new era of migration. Droves of
people from war zones and economically depressed areas have moved to more
stable places, seeking a materially secure way of life. In many lands, an
influx of immigrants and refugees has resulted in the formation of
foreign-speaking enclaves. For instance, in
9 Do we as Christian ministers view
the presence of such people who speak different languages as an impediment to
our ministry? Not at all! Rather, we see this as a welcome expansion of our
ministerial territory—‘fields white for harvesting.’ (John 4:35) We endeavor to
care for people who are conscious of their spiritual need, regardless of their
nationality or language. (Matthew 5:3) As a result, each year a growing number
of people of ‘every tongue’ are becoming disciples of
Christ. (Revelation 14:6) For example, as of August 2004, the preaching
work in
10 Indeed, Jesus’ command to “make
disciples of people of all the nations” is being carried
out! (Matthew 28:19) Eagerly embracing that commission, Jehovah’s Witnesses are
active in 235 lands, distributing literature in more than 400 languages. While
Jehovah’s organization provides the material needed to reach the people, the
individual Kingdom publisher must take the initiative to convey the Bible’s
message to “people of all sorts” in the language they can best understand.
(John 1:7) This united effort enables millions of people of various language
groups to benefit from the good news. (Romans 10:14, 15) Yes, each one of
us plays a vital role!
Rising to the Challenge
11 Today, many Kingdom publishers
would like to learn another language, but they cannot depend on or expect
miraculous gifts of God’s spirit. (1 Corinthians 13:8) Learning a new
language is a major undertaking. Even those who already speak a second language
may have to adjust their thinking and approach in order to make the Bible’s
message appealing to people who speak that language but have different
backgrounds and cultures. Then, too, new immigrants are often shy and timid; to
understand their way of thinking takes hard work.
12 Nonetheless, the holy
spirit is still operative among Jehovah’s servants in their efforts to
help people who speak other languages. (Luke 11:13) Rather than imparting
miraculous linguistic abilities, the spirit can heighten our desire to
communicate with people who do not speak our language. (Psalm 143:10) Preaching
or teaching the Bible’s message to people in a language they are not familiar
with may reach their mind. However, in order to touch the heart of our
listeners, it is often better to use their mother tongue—the language that
speaks to their deepest aspirations, motives, and hopes.—Luke 24:32.
13 Many Kingdom publishers have taken
up the ministry in a foreign-language field when they observe the fine response
to Bible truth. Others feel invigorated when their service becomes more
challenging and interesting. “Many of those who come from
14 To have a meaningful share in this
work, however, we need determination and self-sacrifice. (Psalm 110:3) For
instance, a number of Japanese Witness families have given up comfortable homes
in large cities and have moved to remote areas to help groups of Chinese
immigrants understand the Bible. On the west coast of the