The First Implied Lie
is what started all mans and angels problems. Implying
that Jesus is something
More
Then what He Himself said about Himself is comparable to Satan’s first
Lie.
First Implied Lie is at- Gen 3:4
-(6 results
for:
dictionary. /Imply)
The First Implied Lie
is as follows--
The R65 Serpent (Rev 12:9) said to the
woman, "You surely will not die! Gen 3:4
Red Hot Lie.
Satan Implied that His LORD God
Had Lied
to Eve-then
Eve applied the lie to Adam.
Then Satan said in verse- 5- 3:5
"For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you
will be like God, knowing good and evil."
Satan has continued multiplying lies To This Very Day- Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was thrown down,
the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was thrown down to the earth,
and
his angels were thrown down with
him. Compare (Open and Study) Rev 12:9
Gen
3:15 And I will put enmity Between you and the
woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head,
And
you shall bruise him on the heel." Gen 3:4
- 3:5
Open In
Context --
and between thy seed and her seed;the posterity of Eve, mankind,
and the production of serpents, between whom the antipathy still
continues, and mystically the evil angels and also wicked men called
serpents; and a generation of vipers on the one hand, and the people of
God on the other-GEB -> Study Notes on 3:15
Note how this Implies To John
1:1-2 The Trinity, Implies that Word is GOD
Note The Facts About the word GOD in The Greek Language--Open GOD
The Word was with God and the Word was GOD’s Words -Rev 19:13—Heb
1:1-
1:2
B2. Bibles
Jesus Christ, who reveals God the
Father Open 1 2 1 & 2
Implying that Jesus is something More
Then what He Himself said about Himself is comparable
to
Satan’s first Lie. Study DenyingJesusLife.htm
is DenyingJesus.htm– Satan And
Jesus.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity#Jesus_as_God
Note John 1:1-2 Most Bibles Render— 1 2 In
the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with GOD, and the
Word was GOD.as set forth in the Chalcedonian Creed. in 451 CE. In Christology,
the –open-Conception that Jesus is the Logos Second ID
open
Logos (a Greek word meaning "word",
"wisdom", or "reason") has been important in establishing
the doctrine of Jesus' divinity, Many have seen this as evidence that there was a syncretism
between (Christian) Christology and (secular) Platonism.
The debate about the nature of Christ from the first century through the Council of Chalcedon in 451 CE must be
understood in light of the pervasive world view of Platonic dualism.[not in citation given]
Platonism is normally divided into four periods: Old Academy 347-267 BC, New
Academy 267-80 BC, Middle Platonism 80BC-250 AD, and Neoplatonism 250 AD
through to the Reformation[2].
( 1 2 In
the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with GOD, and the
Word was GOD.
He was in the beginning with. GOD
The
Word was God in Jn 1:1 is not in harmony with Jn
Intentional Fallacy To make the proper Foot Note-
We
know that 1Tim316.htm & 1 Jn 5-7 were altered years later to fit the Concept that the
Word was. GOD.
That Jesus was God --and
the Word was GOD
Jn1:1 with no Foot-Note Study JOHN1onePLUS.htm- WhatIsagod-GOD
Note Facts About the word GOD. in John 1:1 are as follows--
“THEOS”
There Is Only One Word
for GOD
in the Greek Language.
“THEOS” Big G-GOD or small g-god—“Same”. GODorgod.htm.
At the time the New Testament was written, Greek
manuscripts were written in all capital letters. The upper and lower case
letters were not blended as we do today. Thus, the distinction that we today make between “GOD and “god” could
not be made, and the context became the judge in determining to whom “THEOS”
referred to.
At the time the
New Testament was written, Greek manuscripts were written in all capital
letters.
For a Picture of a Manuscript Page-Open Papyrus 66 and Picture of Manuscript
Page
Plus More Info in AllCaps.htm. Open John-20-28.htm
Jn 1:1 The
last phrase in the verse, which most versions translate as “and the Word was God,” should not be translated that way.
The Greek language
uses the word “God” (Greek = theos)
to refer to the Father as well as to other authorities. These include the
Open Devil (2 Cor.Open 4:4
It All About The Bible Publisher’s Theology Compare BIG –G or
small g Example1Jn1-1.htm--
—Bodmer-II-P66.htm )http://www.friktech.com/rel/canon/types.htm ----- http://website.lineone.net/~nt.in.greek /
Look at the letters in the Codex http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex Plus http://www.ntcanon.org/
http://www.earlham.edu/~seidti/iam/index.html
(KJV+ Strong’s)
In1722 the beginning746 was2258
the3588 Word,3056 and2532
the3588
Word3056 was2258
with4314 GOD,2316 and2532
the3588 Word3056 was2258
GOD.2316
Strong’s G2316 –For Who Was
Strong’s Open http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strong's_Concordance
Θεός-theos-----GOD, god [-ly, -ward].
theh'-os
Of
uncertain affinity; a deity, especially (with G3588) the supreme Divinity;
figuratively a magistrate;
by Hebraism very: - X exceeding, GOD, god [-ly, -ward].
G3588 ὁ,
ἡ, τό ho hē
to
ho, hay,
to
The masculine, feminine (second) and neuter
(third) forms, in all their inflections; the definite article; the
(sometimes to be supplied, at others omitted, in English idiom): - the, this, that, one, he, she, it, etc.
At the time the New Testament was written, Greek
manuscripts were written in all capital letters.
Although
context is the final arbiter, it is almost always the case in the New Testament
that when “God” refers to the Father, the definite article appears in the Greek
text (this article can be seen only in the Greek text, it is never translated
into English). Translators are normally very sensitive to this Open (see
John 10:33). The difference between theos
with and without the article occurs in John 1:1: “In the beginning was the
Word, and the Word was with “the
theos,” and the
Word was “theos.”
Since the definite article is missing from the second occurrence of “theos” (“GOD,”)
the usual meaning would be “god” or “divine.” The
New English Bible gets the sense of this phrase by translating it, “What
God was, the Word was.” James Moffatt
who was a professor of Greek and New Testament Exegesis at
Main Question To Decide Is. –Did
the Nicene Creed Makers know more about Jesus then He did of Himself? (learned
intelligence) Did Jesus Lie about what He Learned? Was Jesus
a Liar about Who He Said He Was and Is?---Rev-1.1 Versus the incomprehensible Jn 1:1 Rendering –the word was God That Most Modern Bible Publishers Print -Compared (JOHN1onePLUS.htm) to the
word was a god----which is comprehensible and in harmony with verses Jn 1:14 and Verse 1:18. WhatIsagod.htm) has been changed in many new Bibles. In
58.htm What about John 20:28. GOD
—Denying Jesus Life Study DenyingJesusLife.htm Is DenyingJesus.htm
This is (Open)-AFact.htm--Life.htm and AntiChrist.htm FREEasGOD.htm
Who Makes God A
Mystery-- --MysteryVersesPlusMore.htm Plus Which One
Is Not Real—Satan or Jesus SatanOrJesus.htm
Joh
|
Open Jn 10:33 The Jews answered Him,
"For a good work we do not stone You, but
for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to
be God."
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|
1. Any difficulty in understanding this
verse is caused by the translators.
Had they faithfully rendered the Greek text in verse 33 as they did in verses
34 and 35, then it would read, “…you, a man, claim to be a god.” In the next
two verses, John |
Many Bible
Publishers Translated- a-god or a-God ---
Long
Before Colwell’s Birth. Study
JOHN1onePLUS.htm-
Who Is Colwell and What was
His Rule
Colwell's
Rule and John 1:1- Open 5.htm--BestBiblesComingInTheFUTURE.htm-
2. Given the
language of the time, Open John 20:28--- SahidicCopticGospelofJohn
Is the god,---YHWH in 2 Cor.Open
4:4
Vine’s
Dictionary is not up to speed on this either--–That shows their Bias also to
the Nicene Creeds
Open --VinesOn-agodPLUS.htm
HowTheBibleBooksWereChoosen.htm Study
BiblePunctuationMarksPLUS.
More References in AllManuscriptsWereWrittenInAllCaps.htm
CONSIDER THE SOURCE: Who wrote the Greek Grammatical Rules?—
For The Bible That You Read? “and the Word was God,”
(1) Greeks.
(2) Experts in Greek Mythology and false religion.
(3) Trinitarians!
That’s right! The rules of Greek grammar were written by Greek speaking people
who did not believe in the true God of the Bible. They did not know about the
Son of God, Jesus Christ.
Or if they already knew about Jesus Christ
they wrote the grammatical rules after the fact and made them fit their belief
in a false (man-made) Trinity.
It is not surprising
that they contrived a mysterious god-head they called the Trinity, after all
they believed in fictitious religious beings such as Zeus, Apollos
and Hercules. Zeus was considered the father of many gods. The Greeks, like the
Romans, and many other heathen societies believed in many “multiples of gods.”
Will you allow men who believed in false gods to dictate how you translate the
inspired Word of God at John 1:1?
Will you allow gramatical rules to control your
faith?
(Other
Good References Open WhatIsagod.htm and Open
AFact.htm )------Continue
OR WILL YOU ACCEPT THE PROOF FROM THE CONTEXT OF THE HOLY
SCRIPTURES?
CONTEXT… PROVES TWO SEPARATE SPIRIT BEINGS: The context of John 1:1
emphatically indicates that it is talking about Jesus Christ, the Son of God,
and God as two separate spirit beings. Bible authorities agree that “the Word”
is Jesus Christ. The same verse, John 1:1, indicates
that God and Jesus Christ are two separate beings when it says that “the Word
was with God.” The Greek “pros” means ‘with,’ ‘by the side
of’ and ‘near to” indicating two separate beings. Listen to what Bible
scholars say about the Greek word pros:
“This word ‘with’ points out that there is a distinction of persons here.”
(Geneva Bible Translation Notes)
“This expression denotes friendship or intimacy. John affirms that he (Jesus)
was “with God” in the beginning - that is, before the world was made.” (Albert
Barnes Notes on the Bible)
“Though existing eternally with God the Logos was in perfect fellowship with
God.” (Robertson’s Word Pictures)
“The preposition “pros” implies not just proximity, but intimate personal
relationship. (
“was with God”--having a conscious personal existence distinct from God (as one
is from the person he is "with"), but inseparable from Him and
associated with Him.” (Jamieson, Fausset, and Brown
Commentary)
CONTEXT….JESUS CHRIST IDENTIFIED AS THE “
Even Satan knew him as the “Son of God.” (Matthew 4:6)
The demons and unclean spirits recognized him as the “Son of God.” (Mark
The centurion who guarded him at his death admitted that Jesus was the Son of
God. (Mark
The Gospel writer Mark identified Jesus as the “Son of God.” (Mark 1:1) All of
the Gospel writers knew that Jesus Christ was the “Son of God.”
Nathanael called Jesus the “Son of God.” (John 1:49)
Jesus spoke of himself as the “Son of God.” (John 11:4)
Martha knew that Jesus was the “Son of God.” (John 11:27)
John the Baptist proclaimed Jesus as the “Son of God.” (John 1:34)
CONTEXT…APOSTLE PAUL KNEW THE
CONTEXT…APOSTLE JOHN KNEW JESUS CHRIST, THE
APOSTLE JOHN KNEW THAT JESUS HAD A GOD: John was inspired to write Jesus' words
at John 20:17 when he told Mary: "Go to my brothers, and say to them, I
ascend to my Father and you’re Father, and my God and your
God.” Did you get that? Jesus called God...his God! John was also inspired to
write Jesus' words at Revelation
“ THE REVELATION GOD GAVE TO JESUS CHRIST, so that he
could tell his servants the things that must soon take place. Christ then sent
his angel to communicate the symbolic message to his servant John.” (Revelation
1:1) (NSB) It was obvious to John at the time he wrote these words that Jesus
and the congregation of believers were united in harmony with the Father. (John
14:10, 20) It was also obvious that God was in charge and that Jesus Christ was
subservient to his Father. (John 14:28) (1 Corinthians 11:3) The entire context
of the Holy Scriptures shows that John recognized Jesus Christ as the Son of
God and not as God.
THE EMBLEMATIC LANGUAGE OF JOHN 1:1: When the apostle John wrote the first
verse of his Gospel he was inspired to express a visible symbol for something
very abstract…very abstract! He established three basic Biblical facts in that
one verse: (1) The Word was alive in the beginning. (2) The Word was with God.
(3) The Word was God. John attempted to explain these basic beliefs in the
inspired Gospel of John, the three Letters of John, and the book of Revelation.
The serious Bible student needs to study and meditate on all of the Bible books
written by John in order to understand the Emblematic Language of John 1:1. The
entire context of Johns writings show that Jesus
Christ is the Son of God…NOT GOD!
What was John talking about when he wrote: “theos en ho logos” God was the Word? According to the
context of the New Testament, he was talking about Jesus Christ (the Word) as a
member of the God Family. Jesus was a divine spirit actively serving in heaven
with his heavenly Father before he came to earth. He is a divine spirit now
serving in heaven along side his heavenly Father.
“GOD-LIKE” EXPRESSES ACCURATE MEANING: The New Simplified Bible uses one of the
other accurate meanings of the Greek word “theos,”
Godly, God-like, or like God. This reference to Jesus Christ, the Word, as
being God-like is fitting since he is a member of the God family and is
therefore very much like his heavenly Father. It is in a relative sense that
Jesus Christ could even be considered God. After all he is not his own Father
and his Father truly is God.
THE DEITY OF JESUS CHRIST:
The debate continues… Is Jesus Christ deity? Or is he not deity? The following
Biblical evidence proves that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, spiritually
powerful like his Father, and very much qualified to be a deity! But GOD, not
Jesus Christ, is the true Deity!
(1) Jesus Christ is a supernatural (spiritual) being. (1 Corinthians 10:4)
(2) He is divine. (Colossians 2:9)
(3) Jesus lives forever. (Revelation 11:15; 22:5)
(4) Jesus is a priest forever. (Hebrews 7:17, 21)
(5) Jesus Christ is the Son of God. (Mark
(6) After living as a man on earth, he is now at the right hand of God. (Acts
(7) Like his Father, Jesus Christ is the Savior. (2 Samuel 22:2) (Isaiah 43:3)
(2 Peter 1:11)
(8) Jesus and his Father are united in thought (purpose) and deed. (John
(9) Jesus Christ is second in command in the entire universe. (1 Corinthians
15:27)
(10) Jesus has a God. (John 20:17) (Revelation 3:12)
DEFINITION OF DEITY: The Word-Web Dictionary from
Is Jesus Christ God? NO! But using this definition Jesus could be considered a
deity. That is why some call him “a god.” And he is truly “God-like” in his
nature. (Philippians 2:5, 6) The Holy Scriptures clearly identify the position
of Jesus Christ in heaven. He is second in command. GOD is first! (Hebrews
10:12, 13) (Colossians 3:1) (1 John 2:1)
JESUS CHRIST IS THE BEGOTTEN
• (NSB) JOHN 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and
the Word was with God, and the Word was like God (God-like). (Greek:
Theos: a deity, a god, magistrate, supreme God,
God-like).
The transliterated Greek of this verse looks like this:
En arche en ho logos kai ho
logos
In beginning was the Word and the word
en pros ton theon kai theos en ho logos
was with the God and God-like was the Word
Reference Open-Trinity, Colwell's Rule
http://www.webspawner.com/users/newsimplifiedbible/nsbnotestrinity6.html
Open AFact.htm
1 In
an ancient time there was the Word.
John Chapter 1
The Word or Expression of a Thought?
The Greek word logos is often rightly translated as word. However, logos implies a greater meaning than that; it means the expression of a thought. So, Jesus is truly the complete expression of God’s thoughts.
People have often wondered why John used such unusual wording to start this, his literary masterpiece. It is obvious he was explaining Genesis 1:1-3. Notice how that scripture reads, ‘In an ancient time (gr. en arche) God created the heavens and the earth. But the earth was unsightly and unfinished, darkness covered its depths, and God’s Breath moved over its waters. Then God spoke (gr. eipen), saying, May there be light, and light came to be.’
So, you can see that God spoke, and the things came into existence by means of some unnamed person or force.
Now, follow John’s opening words (at John 1:1) and notice how they dovetail with and explain Genesis 1:1: ‘In an ancient time (gr. en arche) there was the Word . . . He was with God long ago. Everything came into existence through him. Life came into existence through him and the life was the light of men.’
As you can see, the account in Genesis says that God spoke things into existence, and John is explaining what God said (what the ‘Word’ or the ‘Expression of the thought’ was). In other words, God ‘spoke’ and the ‘Word’ (Jesus in his prehuman existence) did the work.
So, if John 1:1 appears to support the idea of a trinity to some, this is unintentional. John is simply trying to impress on his readers that, although Jesus isn’t mentioned in Genesis 1:1, he was there with God and was himself a powerful god who actually did the work (with God’s power) when God ‘spoke’ the heavens and earth into existence.
Are we to conclude from John’s writing here that Jesus’ heavenly name is ton Logos (the Word or Expression of a thought)? No! Recognize that John was just employing an inspired play on words to draw attention to the phrasing of Genesis 1:1. Jesus’ prehuman name was likely Michael, which means: Who is Like God (not a question but a statement). And John called him ‘the Word’ to point out Jesus’ most ancient high position as a co-worker with God, who created whatever things God spoke.
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Is Jesus God?
The simple answer is yes… if you understand what the word god means. This idea may be a bit difficult to grasp for people who were raised in a monotheistic society where God refers to just One. However, remember that the Greeks (whose language we are translating) were a polytheistic society (they worshiped many gods), and to them the word theos referred to a large group of individuals who were simply more powerful than men. So, theos just meant powerful one, not Creator (which is what the Hebrew name Jehovah implies – He who causes to be).
To prove that translating the word Theos as powerful is correct, notice how the Bible calls men gods at Psalm 82:6 (which Jesus also quotes at John 10:34-36), where it says, ‘I said You are gods; of the Most High you’re sons!’
Also, notice that at Exodus 7:1, God told Moses, ‘Look! I’ve made you a god to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron is your prophet.’
So, the terms god and gods just refer to the powerful. And even men can be gods… that is, in the truest sense of the word’s meaning (powerful ones). Thus, a word-for-word literal translation of John 1:1 can read, ‘In ancient time was the Word; and the Word was toward the Powerful One; and powerful was the Word.’
Then, why did we use the term God, rather than Powerful One, at John 1:1? We’ve left the first term (God) in place, because that’s what people call the Divine One today.
So, is the Logos the God or just god (powerful)? From the context of John 1:1, it appears as though Jesus (the Logos) is theos – powerful – but not The God (gr. ton Theon). For notice that Jesus described himself as simply God’s son (gr. Uios tou Theou eimi) at John 10:36.
Also notice that (at John 1:1) Logos (λογος) and Theon (θεον) are both preceded by the definite article the (ο λογος and τον θεον), except in the case where the Logos is referred to simply as theos (θεος). By employing such wording, John was obviously differentiating Jesus from The God. You can clearly see the differences in the words when you read John 1:1, 2 in Greek: ‘Eν αρχη ην ο λογος, και ο λογος ην προς τον θεον, και θεος ην ο λογος. Oυτος ην εν αρχη προς τον θεον.’
That the early Christians didn’t view Jesus as the God is supported by the fact that Christians still worshiped at the Temple of Jehovah in Jerusalem until shortly before it was destroyed in 70-C.E. (see Acts the Twentieth chapter). This is because Christian Jews didn’t consider Christianity to be a new religion with a new god, but rather, that it was the natural outgrowth of the old, and Jesus was the promised ‘Messiah’ or ‘Anointed One of God’ who was to assume ‘the throne of David his father.’
For more information, see the document, Who Was Jesus? Also for more information, see the linked Note in Psalms ‘The Gods of Psalm 82.’
To see how Jesus was described at John 1:1 in the most ancient Coptic texts, see the link http://depts.washington.edu/cartah/text_archive/coptic/coptjohn.shtml, and to see why the Coptic texts are relevant, see the link http://www.integlogic.com/sahidica/pages/sahidicpaper1990.html. -open - John 1:1-18
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Only Created God
Jesus was referred to (herein) as the only-created son
at John
In other Bibles, this word is rendered as only begotten, but begotten isn’t exactly a word that you would read in the newspaper today (where ‘common’ American English may be read), so not everyone will understand what that means either. Remember that the goal of these translators to choose words that are common, easy to understand, and which carry the proper nuance in contemporary American English.
We also might have used the terms only fathered, or, only conceived, or, only born. However, none of those words accurately describes the situation of Jesus. For, while he was the only son ever born through a woman to God, He was also the only creature (son, god, or powerful one) that was directly created by God. For, John went on to elaborate on what he actually meant at Revelation 3:14, where he referred to Jesus as ‘the earliest creation of God’ (gr. he arche tes ktiseos tou Theou – or – the most/ancient creation of/the God). And John wrote of Jesus at John 1:3, ‘Everything [else] came into existence through him’ (gr. panta di autou egeneto – or – all by him generated).
So, although the term only created may not be exactly what was said in a word-for-word translation, it appears to be what John meant in this case.
From http://www.2001translation.com/JOHN.htm#_The_Word_or_Expression_of_a_Thought
BiblePublishersAccountableToWho.htm
What does the Bible say about angels?-- Open angel
Compare Vine’s On-agodPLUS.htm--
and
http://www.searchgodsword.org/par/ enter Acts 7:40
Acts
7:40
SAYING TO AARON, 'MAKE FOR US GODS WHO WILL GO BEFORE US; FOR THIS MOSES WHO LED US OUT OF THE LAND OF EGYPT --WE DO NOT
KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO 41 "At
that time they R346 made a calf F174 and brought a sacrifice to the
idol, and were rejoicing in the R347 works of their hands