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The real blame goes mostly to Translators that have chosen bad words to explain God’s Truths ---Whether

Intentionally or out of ignorance---Open GodtheSon.htm and BadWordsInTheBIBLES.htm ---plus AFact.htm

To see how Jesus was described at John 1:1 in the most ancient Coptic texts, C/H- http://www.integlogic.com/sahidica/pages/sahidicpaper1990.html or http://copticjohn.bravehost.com/index.html

It is noteworthy that the New Testament was translated into three languages

during the Koine period (b.330 AD), that is, while the Koine (common) Greek

was still the lingua franca of the Roman world and universally understood

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Who sets Grammatical Translating Rules-

 (2) Experts in Greek Mythology and false religion. --- Open Trinity, Colwell's Rule  ---Are you stuck in tradition--TraditionPlusVerses.htm

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 An Historical Account of Two Notable Corruptions of Scripture (3509 bytes)

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Sir Isaac Newton On The Bible

 Why did Newton not publish these findings during his lifetime? A glance at the background of the times may explain this. Those who wrote against the doctrine of the Trinity were still subject to persecution in England. As late as 1698 the Act for the Suppression of Blasphemy and Profaneness made it an offense to deny one of the persons of the Trinity to be God, punishable with loss of office, employment and profit on the first occasion, and imprisonment for a repetition. Newton's friend William Whiston (translator of the works of Josephus) lost his professorship at Cambridge for this reason in 1711. In 1693 a pamphlet attacking the Trinity was burned by order of the House of Lords, and the next year its printer and author were prosecuted. In 1697 Thomas Aikenhead, an eighteen-year-old student charged with denying the Trinity, was hanged at Edinburgh, Scotland.

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Sbt- Note -those who do not confess Jesus Christ came in the flesh-That would include people that believe the Spurious-

  God was manifest in the flesh .,. (KJV). Then Teach it as Truth –That Constitutes a Form of Open AntiChrist.htm   AND    1John4plus.htm  More (BiblicalLOGISTICS.htm) Details in  (Open)     GodwasManifestedinTheFlesh.htm

 

OPEN---http://simplebibletruths.net/TrinityReferenceLibrary2.htm :   and  MythsAndMythology.htm Plus TrinitySimplified.htm

 

Commentaries.htm ---- and   AGODagod.htm   With The GWGPNCRule.htm

 

John 5-26 Son to have life in himself, and

--- I bear witness unto the truth.- Open AFact.htm

 John 18-37     –And John1oneWebsiteBeliefnet.htm

 

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PLUS ---IS-----Worshiping Jesus a False Religion Open- JesusWorshipersOrFatherOnly.htm

 

Online-- C/H-- If Jesus is God, the Bible has many Contradictions  Open  Understanding John 1: 1

biblicalunitarian.com A biblical explanation of a common verse used to prove the doctrine of the Trinity.

 

1.2.2.6 John 1:1----- http://wings.buffalo.edu/sa/muslim/library/jesus-say/ch1.2.2.6.html

 

John 1:1-3a – The Divine Word as Creative Agent

Online--- C/H -http://www.nazarene-friends.org/nazcomm/43/001.htm The word was divine.C/O 5

 

Good Details Also About a god-- in--Open-- AGODagod.htm and Godhead.htm  a good follow up is Life.htm

For The Colwell’s Bible Test Open-BestBiblesComingInTheFUTURE.htm

 

For---God, "god" is a very relative term. Scroll down on this page a little more or Open     - Godgod.htm

 

–the Word was God---it can be understood that Jesus is the Mediator and YHWH’S Spokesman.

By harmony Reasoning.

..As for the Word was God- John 1-1 --Jesus was the words of God, and the Word is One of Jesus’ impersonal Titles. So the Word was God (s) words in the Flesh-- as YHWH’S- Spokesman  Heb -1-2-3—John 1-18 then John 1-14-the only Begotten Son -- the Word became Flesh--it doesn't read God became Flesh.—SEE  REV 19-13. These Verses Represent Jesus' Purpose For becoming the Word.  The Only Duality here is that Jesus is the Word (s) of God----That Was one of  God's Purposes For Sending Jesus To Earth to Speak His words to Mankind.  The Word’s Purpose was a Duality. .[The Dualist or Dual Oneness and Trinitarians-- Non Biblical Vocabulary is God became Flesh]  AS for the Word was with God –With means One in the company of Another = Two --In all languages ---Take Note.  The way John 1-1 is written (Here)-- It Is Poor Language Grammar in any Language. Consult your Grammar Teacher.--But the Trinitarians  and Dualist protect it dearly-- even though (For Tri-ist) No Mention of the 3nd person, And at the Same time say that Jesus is not the Father but he is Fully God. –Clear Case of Mysticism .

 Saying God came in the Flesh is adding more to God’s Word---

See  Rev 22 -16-22—Who is God’s Word to You ? Rev 19-10-13.Rev 3-12-14

 

 

 

 Understanding John 1.1----The Complicated Way or The Simple Resolve of The GWGPC –RULE

GWGPC Rule is-A Simple Rule of Harmony.   (God’s Word is Great and Perfect and can not be Contradictive)

 The GWGPC –RULE - – Open -- Now the GWGPNCRule.htm

 

Many Translated a-god or a-God Long Before Colwell’s Birth !!

 It Appears That He Maybe Explaining

 Their Renderings as Well !! Open - BestBiblesComingInTheFUTURE.htm

 

Online—with Links scroll down -THE  Colwell Rule------ Granville Sharp –Rule-----and

 

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Click Here    (2)   C/H -http://www.bibletexts.com/verses/v-joh.htm

 

C/H- A Summary of Colwell's Rule (PDF)

... Colwell's Rule. Rodney J. Decker • February 1995 ... Wallace argues that the value of Colwell's rule is not for exegesis since it does not ...

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Others Plus Their Statement of Faith  - C/H     -  Open STATEMENTsAboutManyChurchesBeliefs.htm

 

 

Granville Sharp -Ruledecisions,

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If Jesus is God, the Bible has many Contradictions

 

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C/H -Truth in Translation: Accuracy and Bias in English Translations of the New Testament
by Jason Beduhn
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C/H -TheologyWeb Campus > World Religions Dept. > Unorthodox Theology 201 > Jason BeDuhn on John 1:1

    

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 Next Here is -- God, "god" is a very relative term--

                      Angels were referred to as God, even Jehovah. You will find that when God first communicated with Moses he appeared in a burning bush.  And an angel spoke from the bush.  (Exodus 3:2) and the "angel" said to Moses:  "And he went on to say:  'I am the God of your father, the God of  Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob.'  Then Moses concealed his face, because he was afraid to look at the [true] God."  (Exodus 3:5,6)   Jehovah was still invisible in the heavens, but, he sent an angel to represent him.  The angel was God to Moses.
  Again, at Psalm 82:1  it reads:  "God is stationing himself in the assembly of the Divine One;  (or "God"- Hebrew Masoretic text;  or "gods"- LXX; or "angels" - Syriac Peshitta Version)  In the middle of the gods  (godlike ones- Hebrew;  "elohim"  or "theoi- LXX  or "angels"- Syriac (see Psalm 8:5, footnote b)  Or according to the Targums-  "judges.")  he judges:"  (Psalm 82:1)
  Even Satan is a god.(2 Corinthians 4:4)
  Jehovah made Moses a god to pharaoh (Exodus 7:1) Moses was not a false god. He was a messenger of God, or the word of God, much the same way Jesus was.

          1 Corinthians 8:5 says:  For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or on earth; as there are gods many, and lords many;  yet to us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we unto him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and we through him.
How others have viewed angels and men as gods:
"The pre-Arian discussion of the Angel-Christology did not turn simply on the question whether Christ was an angel, but on another issue, namely, in what sense could he, as an angel, rank as God. The explanation which was offered by the supporters of the Angel-Christology was that Christ, according to his nature, was a high angel, but that he was named 'God'; for the designation 'God' was ambiguous. The word 'God' did mean, in the first place, the absolute divine omnipotence but it was also used for the beings who served this deus verus [Latin, 'god true'= (the) true God]. That these were designated 'gods' implies reverence and recognition of Him who sent them and whom they thus represented. Consequently in the Scriptures (Exod. xxii, 28),  not only angels,  but even men could be called 'gods' [cf. Ps. 8:5; Heb. 2:7, 9; Ps. 82:6, 7; John 10:34, 35] without  according  them the status in the strict sense. Even Latantius [260-330 C.E.] had thought in this way2 ... 2 Latantius, inst. Epitome [The Epitome of the Divine Institutes], 37."-Martin Werner, the Formation of Christian Dogma, p. 140.

          I said you are gods. Scripture gives the name of gods to those on whom God has conferred an honourable office. He whom God has separated, to be distinguished above all others [His Son] is far more worthy of this honourable title ... The passage which Christ quotes [at John 10:34] is in Psalm lxxxii [82], 6, I have said, You are gods, and all of you are children of the Most High; where God expostulates with the kings and judges of the earth, who tyrannically abuse the authority and power for their own sinful passions, for oppressing the poor, and for every evil action ... Christ applies this to the case in hand, that they receive the name of gods, be- cause they are God's ministers for governing the world. For the same reason Scripture calls the angels gods, because by them the glory of God beams forth on the world ... In short, let us know that magistrates are called gods, because God has given them authority."-John Calvin, Commentary on the Gospel According to John, p. 419, 20.

"We have learned that those only are deified who have lived near to God in holiness and virtue."-Justin Martyr, The First Apology Of Justin, chapter XXI (21); ANF, Vol. I, p. 170.

"For we cast blame upon Him, because we have not been made gods from the beginning, but at first merely men, then at length gods;"-Irenaeus, Irenaeus Against Heresies, Book IV (4), chapter XXXVIII (38), § 4; ANF, Vol. I, p. 52

"[the Son] having bestowed on us the truly great, divine, and inalienable inheritance of the Father, deifying man by heavenly teaching,"-Clement of Alexandria, Exhortation To The Heathen (or, The Greeks, or, The Gentiles), chapter XI (11); ANF, Vol. II, p. 203.

"But let us, O children of the Father-nurslings of the good Instructor [Christ]-fulfil the Father's will ... and meditating on the heavenly mode of life according to which we have been deified, let us anoint ourselves with the perennial, immortal bloom of gladness."-Clement of Alexandria, The Instructor (Peadagogus), Book I, chapter XII (12); ANF, Vol. II, p. 234.

"The Creator did not wish to make him [mankind] a god, and failed in His aim; nor an angel-be not deceived-but a man. For if He had wished to make thee a god, He could have done so. Thou hast the example of the Logos [the Word, the Son]"-Hippolytus, The Refutation Of All Heresies, Book X (10), chapter XXIX (29); ANF, Vol. V (5), p. 151.

"And thou shalt be a companion of the Deity, and a co-heir with Christ, no longer enslaved by lusts or passions, and never again wasted by disease. For thou hast become God ... For the Deity, (by condescension,) does not diminish aught of the dignity of His divine perfection; having made thee even God unto His glory!"-ibid., chapter XXX (30); ibid., p. 153.

"If, therefore, man has become immortal, he will also be God. And if he is made God by water and by the Holy Spirit after the regeneration of the laver he is found to be also joint-heir with Christ after the resurrection of the dead."-Hippolytus, Discourse On The Holy Theophany, § 8; ANF, Vol. V, p. 237.

"For He [the Son of God] was made man that we might be made God."-Athanasisus, Incarnation Of The Word, (De Incarnatione Verbi Dei), The Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, Edinburgh, T&T Clark; Grand Rapids, William B. Eerdmans Publishing Co.; Second Series, Vol. IV (4), p. 65,  reprinting of October,  1987.  "For He has become Man, that He might deify us in  Himself,  and  He has been  born  of a  woman,  and  begotten  of  a Virgin in order to transfer to Himself our erring generation, and that we may become henceforth a holy race, and 'partakers of the Divine Nature,' as blessed Peter  wrote. (2 Peter 1:4)-Athanasius, Letters of Athanasius, (Lx. Ad Adelphiun), 60.4; ibid., p. 576.
True as Opposed to False

           In John 1:9 Jesus is called the "True Light". But yet his disciples are also called "Light"(Matt 5:14). Does that mean that they are false lights?
Jesus is called the "Faithful and
TRUE witness" at Rev 3:14. But at Acts 1:8 Christians are said to be "witnesses". Are they false witnesses. Of course not. All these uses of the TRUE are used archetypically, as opposed to a copy of something. That is the way we should be looking at this.
Trinity is Latin?!
Actually, trinity is an english translation of the latin word trinitas, WHICH COMES FROM THE GREEK
WORK TRIAS. Maybe we could ask why trias isn't in the bible. (Or Open  Trindirty.htm)
Theocratic Kingdom!?
This actually is in the Bible. Theocratic means "god-rule". Theos and God are certainly in the bible....as is rule...as is God's Kingdom and the Kingdom of God(Daniel 2:44;Matthew 6:33; 12:28 etc. The trinity, or even the idea of a Triune God IS NOT in the

the bible.

From the SimpleBibleTruths.net--The Alternative to Mysticism