The mystery of John 1:1
These 70
Bibles Read:
and the word was god, a god –a God –Godlike-Divine or
something else.
Open 70 ReadThisBeforeReadingList & Open it-2 52-54,It’s Very Informative.
Compare BeDuhns-Jn-1-1-List. Also Open What Is a god & Open a Verses And
Learn the Exact
Identity of The Open Word. For those that like the truth
they will also like the
truth about Open Matt-28-19-S.The
Truths About Baptism.
70 List Starts Here
(1) of 70--The
Emphatic Diaglot,--In a beginning was the word, and
the word was with the God,
and a god was
the Word.
Benjamin
Wilson, 1865--- Publisher -Fowler Wells & Co, >
See BenjaminWilson1864-- SBT Prints The Facts That
Matters.
Benjamin Wilson
has three different ending.
a god –a God –Godlike-Divine or something else.
https://studybible.info/Diaglott/John%201
and
a god was the Word. Online
(2) Edward
Harwood, "Before the
origin of this world existed the LOGOS who was then with the Supreme God
An Attempt to
translate the Sacred
with which other English
Translations from the Greek
Critical and
Explanatory---
adoremus.org/0607Translations.html & bible-researcher.com/versbib8.html
(3) Newcome's version (1796), , and
the Word was God.
In 1808 Thomas Belsham and a Unitarian
committee revised Newcome's translation
after his death in 1800.
Belsham's Revised NT was
published in
This “Improved” version of the
New Testament was a revision of Newcome's version
(1796), ....
It is indeed highly improbable
that no notice should have been taken of these .....
No biblical scholar can deny
the great superiority of Archbishop Newcome's ......
was the Word, and the Word was with
God, and the Word was God.
References R/in
See http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Newcome,+it+should+be+as+1796-8
Also
See Open-G or g.-and The Three Worst Mistakes In All Bibles Are.
(4) Goodspeed, "the Word
was divine==-Edgar J. Goodspeed
The complete Bible an American
translation / the Old Testament translated by J. M. Powis
Smith
and a group of scholars;
Imprint:
Description:
xvi p., 1 l., 883, iv, 202, iv, 246, [1] p. ; 20 cm.
questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&d=82396727 -
online version---lib.uchicago.edu/e/spcl/goodspeed.html
bible-researcher.com/goodspeed.html & wikidot.com/goodspeedsmith
(5) Charles
Cutler Torrey, "the Word was god
And The
Four Gospels-A New Translation, by Professor Charles Cutler Torrey
Harper Publishers,
"The Four
Gospels A New Translation by Charles Cutler Torrey",
1933
Hodder and Stoughton, Limited: London Also
published by Harper and Brothers
Publishers:
http://www.d.umn.edu/lib/bible/bibliog/e05.htm
-- listing of Bibles in collection&><
http://bibles.wikidot.com/torrey
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Cutler_Torrey
(6) New
English Bible, 1961, "what God was,the Word was"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_English_Bible--http://www.bible-researcher.com/neb.html
(7) Moffatts Bible,
1935, "The Logos existed in the very beginning, the Logos was with
God,
the Logos was divine.
http://www.bible-researcher.com/moffatt.html --http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Moffatt
http://special.lib.gla.ac.uk/collection/moffat.html--ISBN 0825432286
(8) Simple
English Bible, "and the Message was Deity"
International Bible
Publishing Company 1983--ISBN 978-0937830031
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_English_Bible----http://www.librarything.com/work/1101328
http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/12281694&referer=brief_results ( 1981 version )
(9) Hermann Heinfetter, [A]s a god the
Command was"
Herman Heinfetter [Pseudonym of Frederick
Parker], A Literal Translation of the New Testament of our
Lord
and Saviour Jesus
Christ, on definite rules of translation, from the text of the Vatican
Manuscript. 6th ed.
Parker's translation of the entire New Testament.
http://books.google.com/books?id=--
actual text----
http://www.archive.org/details/literaltranslati00parkrich --
downloadable version
http://www.bible-researcher.com/versbib9.html &
http://www.biblecollectors.org/literal_bible_translations.htm
(10) Robert Young,
LL.D. , A]nd a God (i.e.
a Divine Being) was the Word"—
Concise
Commentary on the Holy Bible, 1885
Note this book
was designed to flesh out his Literal translation and to compliment it.
s.google.co.uk/books?id=fq=Robert+Young,+Concise+Commentary+on+the+Holy+B_result&resnum
http://books.google.co.uk/books/pdf/Concise_commentary_on_the_holy_Bible ( PDF of book )
http://www.bible-researcher.com/young.html & http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Young_(Biblical_scholar)
(11) Leicester
Ambrose Sawyer, "And the logos was a
god"--Leicester Ambrose Sawyer, 1879
THE FINAL THEOLOGY, Vol 1
"Introduction to the New Testament, Historic, Theologic and Critical, p.
353.
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Leicester+Ambrose+Sawyer&source=-&sig=_result&resnum1
http://bibles.wikidot.com/sawyer & http://books.google.com/books?id=leicester+sawyer+new+testament
Plus http://www.virtualology.com/apleicesterambrosesawyer/
(12) A.N. Jannaris Ph
D, [A]nd was a god"
A.N. Jannaris Lecturer of Post-Classical
and Modern Greek - at the University of
Zeitschrift fur die Newtestameutlich Wissencraft, (German periodical)
1901
An Historical Greek Grammar chiefly of the
Attic Dialect, as written and spoken from classical antiquity down to
present time, founded upon
the ancient texts, inscriptions papyri and present popular
Greek
Hildensheim -1968,
v-xi]. ISBN 3487018365
.
pp13-25, German periodical,
(1901)
http://www.lsn.se/2509/Announcements/Jannaris%20A.N.%20Biography.pdf---- http://www.jstor.org/pss/695678
http://www.arch-ant.bham.ac.uk/research/individuals/harlow/bute.htm & http://www.ntresources.com/rd_dbib.htm
(13) George
William Horner, [A]nd (a) God was
the word"--http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coptic_versions_of_the_Bible
George Horner,
The Coptic Version of the New Testament in the Southern Dialect, otherwise
called
Sahidic and Thebaic with Critical
Apparatus Literal English Translation Appendix and Register of Fragments:
The
Epistles of S. Paul (Vol IV) (Hardcover) , 7 vols.,
(1911-1924; repr. Osnabrk: 1969).
http://www.archiveshub.ac.uk/news/0607coptic.html----http://openlibrary.org/b/OL7165148M
http://www.coptic.net/articles/CopticPapyrusCodices.txt
Note
About The Coptics In
https://simplebibletruths.net/CopticsPlus.htm
Update to the below
It is imperative for readers to
know that all ancient hand written manuscripts were written in all Capital
Letter including the Coptics
It is not likely the Coptics were written in lower case –so and the word was a god could not have been
Translated that way.
All Capital
Like This AND THE WORD WAS A GOD. And later some time in 5 Century in lower
case CAME Into being.
Read This Open GODorgod
(14) Ernest
Findlay Scott, 1932, "[A]nd the Word was
of divine nature The Literature of
the New Testament , 1932
http://www.amazon.com/literature-Testament-Ernest-Findlay-Scott ---ISBN
0313247439
http://www.alibris.com/search/books/isbn/9780313247439 &
google.co.uk/books?=Ernest+Findlay+Scott_result&resnum=1&ct=result
(15) James L. Tomanec, The Word was a
God"
The New Testament
of our Lord and Savior Jesus Anointed , 1958
PRINTED BY ARROWHEAD
PRESS,
http://bibles.wikidot.com/tomanek & http://www.thedcl.org/bible/index.html --
on CD >>
(16) Philip Harner, "The Word
had the same nature as God"
Journal of Biblical
Literature ( JBL ), Vol. 92,1974-http://fdier02140.free.fr/Harner.pdf --
actual article>
http://www.sbl-site.org/publications & http://www.bible.org/page.php?page_id=3323
( JBL is
available via JSTOR at Australian National Library )
(17) Maximilian Zerwich S.J./Mary Grosvenor, "The
Word was divine"
Biblical Greek,
Grammatical Analysis
of the Greek New Testament, Unabridged, 4th Revised Edition
(by Max Zerwick and Mary Grosvenor,
http://books.google.com/books?i=Grammatical+Analysis+of+the+Greek+New+Testament,1
-actual book on
http://www.bsw.org/project/biblica/ & http://opac.ge.ch/gateway?sessionid=&s%20Moham
(18) Siegfried
Schulz, "And a god (or, of
a divine kind) was the Word"
Das Evangelium nach Johannes , Vandenhoeck & Ruprecht, Gtingen, Germany.1975
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search- &indexSchulz
-- authors books<
http://www.bsw.org/project/biblica/bibl85/Ani13.html -
footnote reference to this article.
http://www.biblicaltheology.com/Research/LockerM01.html
(19)
Translator's NT, "The Word was with God
and shared his nature
British and
Foreign Bible Society,
Publisher: British
and Foreign Bible Society (January 1973) Language: English - ISBN-10: 0564049913
by W
D McHardy--http://www.ubs-translations.org/cgi-bin/dbman/db.cgi?db=transbib&=366
& http://www.lib.cam.ac.uk/deptserv/biblesociety/index.html Plus http://www.biblesociety.org.uk/index.php
(20)
Barclay, When the
world began, the Word was already there.
The Word was
with God, and the nature of the Word was the same as
the nature of God.
(BNT) Barclay New Testament (1969). -Collins
(vol. 1 in 1968; vol. 2 in 1969 Tyndale House,
http://kenanderson.net/bible/html/barclays.html &
http://www.alibris.com/booksearch?qwork=-=Barclay%2C+William--
(21) Johannes
Schneider, and godlike sort
was the Logos---Das Evangelium nach Johannes,
1978
http://www.amazon.com/Das-Evangelium-Nach-Johannes-Schneiderr=1-1
http://www.antiqbook.nl/boox/wev/54665.shtml & http://lccn.loc.gov/78379049
(22) Schonfield, 1985, "the
Word was divine--The Original New
Testament, 1998
Waterstones & Co. Ltd. in
1985)
& http://www.amazon.com/Original-New-Testament-Definitive-Translation/dp/1862042527
(23) Revised
English Bible "what God was, the Word was--Cambridge Press, 1989
http://www.bible-researcher.com/reb.html &-http://www.cambridge.org/uk/bibles/reb/
--
REB
publishers web site>
(24)
Cotton Patch Version, and the Idea and God were One---Koinonia Partners, 1970
http://www.sbl-site.org/Article.aspx?ArticleId=362---http://rockhay.tripod.com/cottonpatch/john.htm
http://www.koinoniapartners.org/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen= _Code=bbcj
(25)
Scholar's Version, "The Divine word and
wisdom was there with God, and it was what God was
Scholars Version ( The Five Gospels
)--Macmillan Publishers, 1993
http://www.tyndale.cam.ac.uk/scriptures/sv.htm & http://lccn.loc.gov/94038279
(26) Jon
Madsen, "the Word
was <EM>a divine Being"
-- New Testament A Rendering , 1994
ISBN 0863151841--http://bibles.wikidot.com/madsen
(27) Jurgen Becker, "ein Gott war das Logos" [a
God/god was the Logos/logos]
"Das Evangelium nach Johannes, (The Gospel according to
John)--K 4/1; 4/2, Gersloh
1979; 1981. Gersloher Verl.-Haus Mohn)-
https://portal.d-nb.de/opac.htm?method=sEvangeliumJohannesBbecker 2 &
http://www.uni-kiel.de/fak/theol/personen/becker.shtml
Pus https://portal.d-nb.de/opac.htm?method=selectedCategory=any
(28) Curt Stage, "Das Wort war selbst gttlichen Wesens"
[The
Word/word was itself a divine Being/being].
The New Testament, 1907-http://d-nb.info/36287297X--
http://books.google.com/books?Neue+Testament
Das Neue Testament / verdt. von Rudolf Bmer--
http://www.bibelarchiv-vegelahn.de/bibel_b.html---
http://www.bibelarchiv-vegelahn.de/deutsche_bibeln_1900_2003.html
http://jr3oja.blu.livefilestore.com//johannes.pdf---http://books.google.com/books-rudolf+bohmer
http://www.bibelarchiv-birnbaum.de/autoren/autorenb/543-boehmer-rudolf.html
(30) Ludwig Thimme, 1919,"Gott von Art
war das Wort" [God of Kind/kind was the Word/word]
Deutsch
f die bibellesende Gemeinde---Privilegierte Wttembergische Bibelanstalt Stuttgart
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_Thimme & http://www.bautz.de/bbkl/t/thimme_l.shtml
The writings of the New Testament
again translated and for the present
http://www.bibelarchiv-vegelahn.de/bibel_b.html#Baumgarten_Otto
http://www.bibelarchiv-vegelahn.de/bibel_b.html#Bousset_Wilhelm-Heitmueller_Wilhelm
http://d-nb.info/gnd/118817841 & http://d-nb.info/560969260
(32) Oskar Holzmann, "ein Gott war der Gedanke" [a God/god was the Thought/thought]
"Das Neue Testament nach dem Stuttgarter griechischen Text ersetzt und erklt
(Publishing
house by Alfred Telmann in
pouring) First Volume 1926, Second Volume 1926
Offb.19:6 (Band 2, S.949):--ersetzungen, die in Joh. 1,1 den unbestimmten Artikel gebrauchen
1926: "und ein Gott war der Gedanke" (Oskar Holtzmann)
Offb.19:
6 (volume 2, S.949):
Translations, those in Joh. 1,1 the indefinite article use 1926: "
and a
God was the Thought" (Oskar Holtzmann)
http://www.bibelarchiv-vegelahn.de/bibel_h.html#Holtzmann_Oskar--
http://books.google.de/books?id=2Holtzmann,+Oscar=_result&resnum=9&ct=result----
Briefe er das Johannes evangelium
Letters
Over The Johannes Gospel , Stuttgart Publishing House, Urachhaus, 1947, 362 S. 16x24 cm
(Translations, those in Joh. 1,1 the indefinite article use " and even a God was the Word"
& https://portal.d-nb.de/opac.htm?method=selectedCategory=any
(34) Lyder Brun (Norw. professor of NT theology),
1945, "Ordet var av guddomsart"
http://www.revelation-resources.com/2008/07/06/norwegian-writings
(35) Friedrich Pfafflin, 1949, "war
von gttlicher Wucht [was of divine Kind/kind]
Die Briefe des Neuen Testaments in der Sprache von heute / ers. von Friedrich Pfflin* - Heilbronn :
Salzer, 1933--http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfflin--http://d-nb.info/gnd/119467445
Publishing house of the protestant
bookshop of P. Ott--http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_Albrecht
http://www.bibelarchiv-vegelahn.de/bibel_aa.html#Albrecht_Ludwig
& http://www.bautz.de/bbkl/a/albrecht_l.shtml
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_online-bibeln%2Fmenge-bibel%2Flesen- _en&btnTrUrl=Translate
which is an on-line translation
of :http://www.die-bibel.de/online-bibeln/menge-bibe /cache//
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_Menge & http://bbkl.de/m/menge.shtml
(38) Ernst Haenchen, 1980, "Gott (von
Art) war der Logos" [God (of Kind/kind) was the Logos/logos]
Das Johannesevangelium : e. Kommentar / Ernst Haenchen. Aus d. nachgelassenen
Ms. hrsg. von Ulrich Busse. Mit e. Vorw. von James M.
Robinson The Johannes gospel: e. Comment/Ernst
Haenchen. --From
D. left ms. hrsgg. of Ulrich
of buses. With e. Vorw. by James
M. Robinson
Author Haenchen, Ernst , Publisher T5ubingen: Mohr
, -- ISBN 3161431022
http://reindex.net/STU/main/Hits.php?full=1&tgtId=1043&tgtPos=1&Collection=SD=a
query=Haenchen%2C+Ernst+++Das+Johannesmethod=simpleSearch
http://books.google.com/books?id=Johannesevangelium+Ernst+Haenchen,+1980
(39) Die Bibel in heutigem Deutsch,
"r war bei Gott und in allem Gott gleich"
[He
was with God and in all like God]
The
Bible in today's German:
The good message.
Old
and New Testament. With late writings Old Testament (Deuterokanon.
Writings/Apokryphen) Stuttgart: Dt. Bibelges., 1982
http://d-nb.info/820980161
(40) Siegfried Schulz, 1987, "ein Gott (oder: Gott von Art) war das Wort"
[a God/god (or: God/god of Kind/kind) was the Word/word]. ( Also 1975 )
Siegfried
Schulz-- (a) Das Evangelium nach Johannes--Aufl.1983
264 S.-Aufl.1987 266 S.
(b) Das Evangelium nach Johannes Evangelische --Verlagsanstalt> Berlin -Aufl.1975
161 S..<
http://www.bibelarchiv-vegelahn.de/bibel_g.html#Goettinger_Bibelwerk-NTD
http://www.uni-kiel.de/fak/theol/personen/becker_publ.shtml & http://d-nb.info/870905910
(41) William Temple, Archbishop of
York, "And the Word was divine"
Readings in St. John's Gospel--London, Macmillan & Co.,
1933
http://justus.anglican.org/resources/bio/61.html-http://www.bartleby.com/65/te/Temple-W.html
(42) John Crellius, Latin form of German,
1631, "The Word of Speech was a God"
aka Johann Crell ( b 1590 - d 1633 )--
The 2 Books of John Crellius Francus, Touching One God the
Father-Bib ID
865017
Format Book , Microform
-Author Crell, Johann, 1590-1633
Uniform Title De uno Deo Patre libri duo. --English Publisher
Printed in Kosmoburg
Description 2 pts. ([10], 315, [20] p.) Series Early English books, 1641-1700 ;
349:9.
Notes Translation of: De uno Deo Patre libri duo.
Place
of publication Reproduction
of original in Union Theological Seminary Library, New York.
http://www.archive.org/stream/earlysourcesofen00boneuoft/earlysourcesofen00boneuoft_djvu.txt
http://openlibrary.org/a/OL4731285A--http://openlibrary.org/b/OL22297488M
http://nla.gov.au/nla.cat-vn865017--http://www.isaacnewton.ca/keynes/pdf/English_KMS8_commentary.PDF
--
Note on Isaac Netwon rejecting the trinity.
(43) Ervin Edward Stringfellow (Prof. of NT Language and
Literature/Drake University),
by the
John S. Swift Co., Inc. at St.. Louis, Missouri.
(44) http://www.biblecollectors.org/biographies/eestringfellow.htm--http://lccn.loc.gov/44001452
http://library.dbq.edu:8675/ipac20/ipac.jsp?!dubuque&view=subscriptisearch&ri=1
"In
the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with the
Almighty One,
and the Word was like the Almighty One"
-http://www.webspawner.com/users/newsimplifiedbible/nsbyvjohn.html
Or TrinitarianBiasTestPLUSmore.htm
Readsr John 1:1
NSB In the beginning was the Word, and
the Word was with God,
and the Word was like God (God-like).
http://simplebibletruths.net/TrinitarianBiasTestPLUSmore.htm
& http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=New+Simplified+Bible%22&so_result&resnum=10&ct=result
(46) 2001 Translation "In an
ancient time there was the Word.
The
Word was with God and the Word was powerful."
http://www.2001translation.com/JOHN.htm-http://www.geocities.com/onlinebibletranslations/
& http://www.biblebureau.com/readthebibleonline.htm
(47) The New Testament: An
Expanded Translation
In the beginning the Word was existing. And the Word was in fellowship with
God the Father.
And
the Word was as to His essence absolute deity. This Word was in the beginning
in fellowship with
God
the Father. All things through His intermediate agency came into being, and
without Him there
came into
being not even one thing which has come into existence.
Wuest Expanded Translation (WET) , 1994--Published by Wm.
B. Eerdmans Publishing, 1994,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuest_Expanded_Translation--http://www.bible-researcher.com/wuest.html
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=luv6JvCuuUEresult&resnum=4&ct=result
-- Actual bible on line
at google books
(48) The Orthodox Jewish
Brit Chadasha (1997)
Bereshis (In the Beginning) was
the Dvar Hashem [YESHAYAH 55: 11; BERESHIS 1:1],
and the Dvar Hashem was agav (along with) Hashem [MISHLE 8:30; 30:4], and the
Dvar Hashem was
nothing less, by nature, than Elohim!
[Psa 56:11(10); Yn 17:5; Rev. 19:13]
&
http://www.amazon.com/Orthodox-Jewish-Brit-Chadasha/dp/0939341034
(49) Revised English
Bible, In the
beginning the Word already was.
The
Word was in God's presence, and what God was, the Word was.
(REB) Revised English Bible-Oxford
and Cambridge Universities Presses (1989)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revised_English_Bible-
United
Bible Societies (1976)--http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_News_Bible
http://www.biblesociety.com.au/BS/Bible/history_othertrans.html
& http://www.bibletexts.com/reviews/bibles/tev.htm
(51) The Unvarnished New
Testament, In the
beginning was the Word,
and the
Word was toward God, and God was what the Word was.
The Unvarnished New
Testament ( UNT )--Phanes Press, 1991
& http://www.innvista.com/culture/religion/bible/versions/unt.htm
(52) International Standard
Version, In the
beginning, the Word existed. The Word was with God.
Through
him all things were made, and apart from him nothing was made that has been made
(ISV) International Standard
Version-Davidson Press, 1998
(53) Disciples New
Testament, In the
beginning [of creation] there was the Manifestation*;
And
that Manifestation was with God;
and God was [the embodiment
of] that
Manifestation.
Victor Alexander--ISBN: 1438215398
--Publisher: CreateSpace--Date of Publication: 13/05/2008
http://www.v-a.com/bible/--http://www.v-a.com/bible/john_1-7.html#JOHN#1
& http://www.langtoninfo.com/showitem.asp?isbn=1438215398
(54) The Peoples New
Testament, That he who was afterwards manifest as the
Christ
existed before creation began;
that he was present with God;
that he was
divine; that he was
the Word;
B.W. Johnson, 1891--http://www.mun.ca/rels/restmov/texts/bjohnson/hg1/PNT04-01.HTM
http://www.amazon.com/Peoples-New-Testament-Explanatory-Notes/dp/0892251417
http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&d=5014897881-
-& http://www.oldpaths.org/Library/Comments/Hess/Col/bib.html
(55) The Abbreviated
Bible, The Word existed with God from the beginning,
and all
things were created through him
James Leslie McCary and Mark McElhaney--Publisher - Van Nostrand Reinhold, New York, 1971
http://openlibrary.org/b/OL4918632M--http://lccn.loc.gov/76173420
& http://www.innvista.com/culture/religion/bible/versions/tab.htm
(56) Cassirer New
Testament, It was the Word that was at the very beginning;
and the
Word was by the side of God,
and the Word was the very same as
God---Heinz W. Cassirer,
1989--http://tyndalearchive.com/scriptures/cnt.htm
& http://www.innvista.com/culture/religion/bible/versions/cnt.htm
(57) The Sacred Scriptures, Bethel
Edition, In the
beginning was the Word,
and the
Word was with Yahweh, and the Word was Elohim.
Assemblies of Yahweh, 1981http://www.innvista.com/culture/religion/bible/versions/ssbe.htm
http://www.assembliesofyahweh.com/SSBE.htm &
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Scriptures_Bethel_Edition
(58) New World
Translation, In [the]
beginning the Word was,
and the
Word was with God, and the Word was a god.
Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, 1961
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Translation_of_the_Holy_Scriptures.
& http://www.bible-researcher.com/new-world.html
(59) New Testament: An
Understandable Version,
The
Word [already] existed in the beginning [of time].
{Note: this is a reference to the preexistence of Jesus. See verse 14}.
2002-http://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore/ItemDetail.aspx?bookid=33940
http://tyndalearchive.com/scriptures/ntuv.htm & http://ncbible.org/AUV/Contents.htm
(60) Rolf Furuli "and the Word was a
divine being"
If I were to translate the Bible for a group with no
previous knowledge of it, I would use an
idiomatic method,
but I would follow your advise to translate important words as uniformely
as possible.
Because I see so much unnecessary theological coloring of the text in the modern
versions,
I guess I would be extremely careful to render theologically important passages
as
literal as
possible. And the most important thing - I would like to have an extensive
apparatus
of footnotes,
both giving textual variants and alternative renderings. But I would not give
Louw & Nida's suggestions in a
footnote to Col 1:15,
because they
in my view are completely unfounded, linguistically
speaking.
To
John 1:1, however, I would use one of the
following five renderings in the main text,
and the
four others in a footnote: "And the Word was God", "and the Word
was divine",
"and the
Word was a divine being", "and the Word was a god", "and
god was the word".
University of Oslo-http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/b-hebrew/1999-April/002537.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolf_Furuli
(61) the word was a god. (Revised Version-Improved and
Corrected)
http://www.mostholyfaith.com/bible/BibleXref.asp?xref=RVIC^John^1
http://www.mostholyfaith.com/bible/BibleIndex.asp?Parm=RVIC
http://www.heraldmag.org/2008/08nd_14.htm
http://www.biblereadersmuseum.com/BibleLink5.html
(62)
Professor Felix Just S.J.
In origin was the Word, and the Word was toward [the]
God,*
and god/deity/God* was the Word.
Professor Felix Just, S.J., Loyola Marymount University,
007--http://catholic-resources.org/John/Outlines-Prologue.htm
http://catholic-resources.org/Courses/LMU/310Syllabus.htm----
web site and courses run by Felix Just
http://www.amazon.com/John-Jesus-History-Appraisals-Literature =8-1
Note
on the Translation of 1:1-2:
My translation here is an attempt (maybe not
completely successful?) to point out a curiosity
and difficulty
in the original Greek of John 1:1c, where the Evangelist writes,
in
the full Trinitarian sense of later Christianity), he probably would have written
"
KAI hO LOGOS HN hO ThEOS"
(or "KAI hO ThEOS HN hO LOGOS" –
essentially saying
A=B or B=A). Instead, he wrote "KAI ThEOS HN hO LOGOS,"
omitting the
expected article "hO" in
front of "ThEOS."
The
first difference/difficulty: Ancient Greek has "definite articles" (in
masculine, feminine,
and neuter
forms - but all equivalent to "the" in English), but it does NOT have
any "INdefinite
articles"(English
"a, an"). In translation, we usually write "the" if the Greek
noun is preceded by
a definite
article, while we often (but not always) have to ADD the word "a" or
"an" in standard
English
when the definite article is missing in Greek (for example, "hO STAUROS" is "the cross,
"
while "STAUROS" alone is "a cross"). So translating
"KAI ThEOS HN hO LOGOS"
as "and
the Word was a god" (as Jehovah's Witnesses do) adds an indefinite article
in
English
that is not explicit in the orinigal Greek
text, and may or may not be appropriate
they usually
include the definite article in front, "hO ThEOS," even though translating this
too literally
sounds strange in English. We usually just say "God," rather than
"the God."
Thinking
of "hO ThEOS" as "the (one and only)
God" might help, but still, we do not normally
put the"
in front of "God." So most English translations simply drop the
definite article whenever
"hO ThEOS" refers to the Jewish or
Christian monotheistic "God." In contrast, in polytheistic
contexts,
it is sometimes better to translate "hO ThEOS" as "the god" (for
example,
"He
went to the temple of the god" - implying a particular god, maybe Apollo,
from among
the many gods in the Greek pantheon).
So
what did the Evangelist mean in John
1:1c? He certainly did not
consider Jesus to be
just one
"divine being" or "deity" among many others. If he meant
"divine" in this broader sense,
he easily
could have used the related Greek adjective, "ThEIOS," rather than the noun "ThEOS."
(See,
for example, the adjective "ThEIOS"
used twice in 2 Peter 1:3-4, referring to
"divine power"
and "divine nature"). Other texts in John clearly show that the
Fourth Evangelist
sees Jesus
in a unique relationship with God, calling him "the only-begotten son"
(TON hUION TON MONOGENH; 3:16),
challenging us to believe
"in the
name of the only-begotten son of God"
(EIS
TO ONOMA TOU MONOGENOUS hIOU TOU ThEOU; 3:18),
referring to
his glory "as of a father's only son" (hWSMONOGENOUS PARA PATROS; 1:14),
and even
calling him "the only-begotten God" (MONOGENHS ThEOS; 1:18 –
another difficult
phrase, with several ancient textual variations).
"second person
of the Trinity" (theological language that took several centuries to
develop in
early Christianity - itself strongly influence by this Johannine passage);
yet John
certainly thought of Jesus as "divine" or "deity" or
"god" in a unique sense,
not merely
"a god," or one deity among many.
Exactly what he meant in John 1:1c
may not
be easy to understand, and it is even harder to translate into English because
of the
difficulties mentioned above. So rather than fixate on any particular English translation,
even the
best of which might confuse us or lead us astray, we should try to continue
deepening
our understanding
of what John's entire Gospel says about the uniquely close relationship of
(62) The New Testament, An improved version the Word
was a god –
Newcome's new
translation with a corrected text and notes critical and explanatory.
(63) http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Se0UAAAAYAAJ&dq=Belst&resnum=3&ct=result#PPA200,M1
-- actual verse of John 1:1-http://www.bible-researcher.com/belsham.html--about Belsham
(64)
A Paraphrase on the Gospel of John
[A] Divine Person.
Samuel Clarke, M.A., D.D., Rector of
St. James, Westminster
http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/3246630?lookfor=1&max=4079824--
actual book
at National Library of Australia
searchable book
pages 5,6,8 useful
(65) A Statement of
Reasons For Not Believing the Doctrines of Trinitarians a god
Cambridge:
Brown, Shattuck, and Company, 1833
http://books.google.com/books?id==A+Statement+of+ReasonsTrinitarians#PPA280,M1
-- actual book. Search for a god on
pages 2, 28, 67, 68, 280
http://books.google.com/books?iA+Statement+of+Reasons
+of+Trinitarians#PPA365,M1
1859
version. Actual text. See pages 40, 68, 113, 121,
158, 205, 231, 314, 365
http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/3756182?lookfor=A%20s%20of%20Trinitarians&offset=04
(66)
The Beginnings of Christianity
a God
PAUL WERNLE-PROFESSOR EXTRAORDINARY
OF MODERN CHURCH HISTORY AT THE
The Beginnings of Christianity,
vol. 1, The Rise of Religion [1903], 16
Translated by THE REV. G. A. BIENEMANN,
M.A. and edited, with an Introduction,
by
THE REV.
W. D. MORRISON, LL.D.
VOL.
I. - THE RISE OF THE RELIGION--WILLIAMS AND NORGATE
14 HENRIETTA STREET, COVENT
GARDEN, LONDON AND 7
1903--http://www.ccel.org/ccel/wernle_paul/beginnings01.iii.v.ii.html –
& http://lccn.loc.gov/04017922
(67)
Twenty First Century New Testament Literal Translation
and the
[Marshal] [Word] was a god.
Vivian Capel-- Twenty First Century New
Testament Literal Translation:
The Dual Translation which Enables a
Study of the Literal Meanings of the Original Text to
be Combined
with a Reading in
Modern English.
Published by Insight Press, Bristol,
1998--ISBN 0953187705
http://www.biblereadersmuseum.com/biblebiblio.htm--
http://www.goldenagebooks.co.uk/ViewProduct.asp?productID=28
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Twenty-Century-Testament-Literal-Translation/
Concordant Literal New Testament With Keyword
Concordance, 1983--ISBN 0910424144
http://openlibrary.org/b/OL11380939M/Concordant
http://www.concordant.org/version/NewFiles/04_John.htm
& http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concordant_Literal_Version
(69) Dictionary of the Bible "the word was a divine being.'--Jesuit John L. McKenzie, 1965 –
Dictionary
of the Bible# "Trinity.
is the
Father* of Jesus Christ. It is for this reason that the title ho theos,
which now designates
the Father
as a personal reality, is not applied in the NT to Jesus Himself;
Jesus
is the Son of God (of ho theos). This is a matter of usage and not
of rule, and the noun
[Gk.
ho theos] is applied to Jesus a few times.
"Jn 1:1 should rigorously be translated "the
word was with the God [= the Father],
and the
word was a divine being."
The trinity of God is defined by the Church as the
belief that in
God are three
persons who subsist in one nature. The belief as so defined was reached only
in the
4th and 5th centuries AD and hence is not explicitly and formally a biblical
belief.
The
trinity of persons within the unity of nature is defined in terms of
"person" and "nature"
which are
Gk philosophical terms; actually the terms do not appear in the Bible.
such as
"essence" and "substance" were erroneously applied to God
by some theologians. ...
Without
an explicit formula the NT leaves no room to think that Jesus is Himself an
object of the
adoption which
He communicates to others. He knows the Father and reveals Him.
He
therefore belongs to the divine level of being; and there is no question at all
about the
Spirit
belonging to the divine level of being. What
is less clear about the Spirit is
"and the
word was [a] God."--Timothy Kenrick
Published in 1807, Printed for Longman,
Hurst, Rees, and Orme (London), 1807
http://openlibrary.org/b/OL21105798M & http://www.hurleybooks.com/si/44603.html
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=jgU&source=gbs_search_r&cad=0_1#PRA4-PA12,M1
A Note : 70
Different people or Bible Publishers in 70
different situations recognize that was
God with
a CAPITAL G is not the universal translation of John 1:1.
In
fact, this information makes it clear that what is orthodox is not orthodox at all rather we see
that many
translators realize that God was telling us something very unique about Jesus in
John
1:1 and his relationship with God. Many translators let theology get in
the way of truth -
here we
see honest efforts to show Gods word correctly translated.
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