The Bible That You Read ? “and the Word was God,”
(2) Experts in Greek Mythology and false religion.
That’s right! The rules of Greek grammar were written by Greek speaking people who did not believe in the true God of the Bible. They did not know about the Son of God, Jesus Christ.
Or if they already knew about Jesus Christ they wrote the grammatical rules after the fact and made them fit their belief in a false (man-made) Trinity.
It is not surprising that they contrived a mysterious
god-head they called the Trinity, after all they believed in fictitious
religious beings such as Zeus, Apollos and Hercules. Zeus was considered the
father of many gods. The Greeks, like the Romans, and many other heathen
societies believed in many “multiples of gods.”
Will you allow men who believed in false gods to dictate how you translate the inspired Word of God at John 1:1?
Will you allow gramatical rules to control your faith?
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OR WILL YOU ACCEPT THE PROOF
FROM THE CONTEXT OF THE HOLY SCRIPTURES?
CONTEXT… PROVES TWO SEPARATE SPIRIT BEINGS: The context of John 1:1 emphatically indicates that it is talking about Jesus Christ, the Son of God, and God as two separate spirit beings. Bible authorities agree that “the Word” is Jesus Christ. The same verse, John 1:1, indicates that God and Jesus Christ are two separate beings when it says that “the Word was with God.” The Greek “pros” means ‘with,’ ‘by the side of’ and ‘near to” indicating two separate beings. Listen to what Bible scholars say about the Greek word pros:
“This word ‘with’ points out that there is a distinction of persons here.” (Geneva Bible Translation Notes)
“This expression denotes friendship or intimacy. John affirms that he (Jesus) was “with God” in the beginning - that is, before the world was made.” (Albert Barnes Notes on the Bible)
“Though existing eternally with God the Logos was in perfect fellowship with God.” (Robertson’s Word Pictures)
“The preposition “pros” implies not just proximity, but intimate personal relationship. (
“was with God”--having a conscious personal existence distinct from God (as one is from the person he is "with"), but inseparable from Him and associated with Him.” (Jamieson, Fausset, and Brown Commentary)
CONTEXT….JESUS CHRIST IDENTIFIED AS THE “
Even Satan knew him as the “Son of God.” (Matthew 4:6)
The demons and unclean spirits recognized him as the “Son of God.” (Mark )
The centurion who guarded him at his death admitted that Jesus was the Son of God. (Mark )
The Gospel writer Mark identified Jesus as the “Son of God.” (Mark 1:1) All of the Gospel writers knew that Jesus Christ was the “Son of God.”
Nathanael called Jesus the “Son of God.” (John 1:49)
Jesus spoke of himself as the “Son of God.” (John 11:4)
Martha knew that Jesus was the “Son of God.” (John 11:27)
John the Baptist proclaimed Jesus as the “Son of God.” (John 1:34)
CONTEXT…APOSTLE PAUL KNEW THE
CONTEXT…APOSTLE JOHN KNEW JESUS CHRIST, THE
APOSTLE JOHN KNEW THAT JESUS HAD A GOD: John was inspired to write Jesus' words at John 20:17 when he told Mary: "Go to my brothers, and say to them, I ascend to my Father and you’re Father, and my God and your God.” Did you get that? Jesus called God...his God! John was also inspired to write Jesus' words at Revelation , "'I will make the one who overcomes, a pillar in the temple of my God, and he will not go out from it anymore. I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is the New Jerusalem. This city comes down out of heaven from my God. I will write my new name on him." Jesus calls his heavenly Father, his God! No, Jesus Christ is not God...he is the Son of God.
“ THE REVELATION GOD GAVE TO JESUS CHRIST, so that he could tell his servants the things that must soon take place. Christ then sent his angel to communicate the symbolic message to his servant John.” (Revelation 1:1) (NSB) It was obvious to John at the time he wrote these words that Jesus and the congregation of believers were united in harmony with the Father. (John 14:10, 20) It was also obvious that God was in charge and that Jesus Christ was subservient to his Father. (John 14:28) (1 Corinthians 11:3) The entire context of the Holy Scriptures shows that John recognized Jesus Christ as the Son of God and not as God.
THE EMBLEMATIC LANGUAGE OF JOHN 1:1: When the apostle John wrote the first verse of his Gospel he was inspired to express a visible symbol for something very abstract…very abstract! He established three basic Biblical facts in that one verse: (1) The Word was alive in the beginning. (2) The Word was with God. (3) The Word was God. John attempted to explain these basic beliefs in the inspired Gospel of John, the three Letters of John, and the book of Revelation. The serious Bible student needs to study and meditate on all of the Bible books written by John in order to understand the Emblematic Language of John 1:1. The entire context of Johns writings show that Jesus Christ is the Son of God…NOT GOD!
What was John talking about when he wrote: “theos en ho logos” God was the Word? According to the context of the New Testament, he was talking about Jesus Christ (the Word) as a member of the God Family. Jesus was a divine spirit actively serving in heaven with his heavenly Father before he came to earth. He is a divine spirit now serving in heaven along side his heavenly Father.
“GOD-LIKE” EXPRESSES ACCURATE MEANING: The New Simplified Bible uses one of the other accurate meanings of the Greek word “theos,” Godly, God-like, or like God. This reference to Jesus Christ, the Word, as being God-like is fitting since he is a member of the God family and is therefore very much like his heavenly Father. It is in a relative sense that Jesus Christ could even be considered God. After all he is not his own Father and his Father truly is God.
THE DEITY OF JESUS CHRIST:
The debate continues… Is Jesus Christ deity? Or is he not deity? The following Biblical evidence proves that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, spiritually powerful like his Father, and very much qualified to be a deity! But GOD, not Jesus Christ, is the true Deity!
(1) Jesus Christ is a supernatural (spiritual) being. (1 Corinthians 10:4)
(2) He is divine. (Colossians 2:9)
(3) Jesus lives forever. (Revelation 11:15; 22:5)
(4) Jesus is a priest forever. (Hebrews 7:17, 21)
(5) Jesus Christ is the Son of God. (Mark ) (John 1:34) (1 John 5:12)
(6) After living as a man on earth, he is now at the right hand of God. (Acts ) (Hebrews 10:12)
(7) Like his Father, Jesus Christ is the Savior. (2 Samuel 22:2) (Isaiah 43:3) (2 Peter 1:11)
(8) Jesus and his Father are united in thought (purpose) and deed. (John ; )
(9) Jesus Christ is second in command in the entire universe. (1 Corinthians 15:27)
(10) Jesus has a God. (John 20:17) (Revelation 3:12)
DEFINITION OF DEITY: The Word-Web Dictionary from
Is Jesus Christ God? NO! But using this definition Jesus could be considered a deity. That is why some call him “a god.” And he is truly “God-like” in his nature. (Philippians 2:5, 6) The Holy Scriptures clearly identify the position of Jesus Christ in heaven. He is second in command. GOD is first! (Hebrews 10:12, 13) (Colossians 3:1) (1 John 2:1)
JESUS CHRIST IS THE BEGOTTEN
• (NSB) JOHN 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was like God (God-like). (Greek: Theos: a deity, a god, magistrate, supreme God, God-like).
The transliterated Greek of this verse looks like this:
En arche en ho logos kai ho logos
In beginning was the Word and the word
en pros ton theon kai theos en ho logos
was with the God and God-like was the Word
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The Greek word logos is often rightly translated as word. However, logos implies a greater meaning than that; it means the expression of a thought. So, Jesus is truly the complete expression of God’s thoughts.
People have often wondered why John used such unusual wording to start this, his literary masterpiece. It is obvious he was explaining Genesis 1:1-3. Notice how that scripture reads, ‘In an ancient time (gr. en arche) God created the heavens and the earth. But the earth was unsightly and unfinished, darkness covered its depths, and God’s Breath moved over its waters. Then God spoke (gr. eipen), saying, May there be light, and light came to be.’
So, you can see that God spoke, and the things came into existence by means of some unnamed person or force.
Now, follow John’s opening words (at John 1:1) and notice how they dovetail with and explain Genesis 1:1: ‘In an ancient time (gr. en arche) there was the Word . . . He was with God long ago. Everything came into existence through him. Life came into existence through him and the life was the light of men.’
As you can see, the account in Genesis says that God spoke things into existence, and John is explaining what God said (what the ‘Word’ or the ‘Expression of the thought’ was). In other words, God ‘spoke’ and the ‘Word’ (Jesus in his prehuman existence) did the work.
So, if John 1:1 appears to support the idea of a trinity to some, this is unintentional. John is simply trying to impress on his readers that, although Jesus isn’t mentioned in Genesis 1:1, he was there with God and was himself a powerful god who actually did the work (with God’s power) when God ‘spoke’ the heavens and earth into existence.
Are we to conclude from John’s writing here that Jesus’ heavenly name is ton Logos (the Word or Expression of a thought)? No! Recognize that John was just employing an inspired play on words to draw attention to the phrasing of Genesis 1:1. Jesus’ prehuman name was likely Michael, which means: Who is Like God (not a question but a statement). And John called him ‘the Word’ to point out Jesus’ most ancient high position as a co-worker with God, who created whatever things God spoke.
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The simple answer is yes… if you understand what the word god means. This idea may be a bit difficult to grasp for people who were raised in a monotheistic society where God refers to just One. However, remember that the Greeks (whose language we are translating) were a polytheistic society (they worshiped many gods), and to them the word theos referred to a large group of individuals who were simply more powerful than men. So, theos just meant powerful one, not Creator (which is what the Hebrew name Jehovah implies – He who causes to be).
To prove that translating the word Theos as powerful is correct, notice how the Bible calls men gods at Psalm 82:6 (which Jesus also quotes at John 10:34-36), where it says, ‘I said You are gods; of the Most High you’re sons!’
Also, notice that at Exodus 7:1, God told Moses, ‘Look! I’ve made you a god to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron is your prophet.’
So, the terms god and gods just refer to the powerful. And even men can be gods… that is, in the truest sense of the word’s meaning (powerful ones). Thus, a word-for-word literal translation of John 1:1 can read, ‘In ancient time was the Word; and the Word was toward the Powerful One; and powerful was the Word.’
Then, why did we use the term God, rather than Powerful One, at John 1:1? We’ve left the first term (God) in place, because that’s what people call the Divine One today.
So, is the Logos the God or just god (powerful)? From the context of John 1:1, it appears as though Jesus (the Logos) is theos – powerful – but not The God (gr. ton Theon). For notice that Jesus described himself as simply God’s son (gr. Uios tou Theou eimi) at John 10:36.
notice that (at John 1:1) Logos (λογος) and Theon
both preceded by the definite article the
λογος and τον
θεον), except in the case where the Logos is
referred to simply as theos (θεος).
By employing such wording, John was obviously differentiating Jesus from The
God. You can clearly see the differences in the words when you read John 1:1,
That the early Christians didn’t view Jesus as the God is supported by the fact that Christians still worshiped at the Temple of Jehovah in Jerusalem until shortly before it was destroyed in 70-C.E. (see Acts the Twentieth chapter). This is because Christian Jews didn’t consider Christianity to be a new religion with a new god, but rather, that it was the natural outgrowth of the old, and Jesus was the promised ‘Messiah’ or ‘Anointed One of God’ who was to assume ‘the throne of David his father.’
To see how Jesus was described at John 1:1 in the most ancient Coptic texts, see the link http://depts.washington.edu/cartah/text_archive/coptic/coptjohn.shtml, and to see why the Coptic texts are relevant, see the link http://www.integlogic.com/sahidica/pages/sahidicpaper1990.html. -open - John 1:1-18
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Jesus was referred to (herein) as the only-created son at John and as the only-created god at John . However, that isn’t exactly what the scriptures say. The Greek word that is translated only created is monogenea (mono means only; genea means generated). So, the verses literally call him the only generated son or god. However, translating it as only generated could be a bit confusing to readers.
In other Bibles, this word is rendered as only begotten, but begotten isn’t exactly a word that you would read in the newspaper today (where ‘common’ American English may be read), so not everyone will understand what that means either. Remember that the goal of these translators to choose words that are common, easy to understand, and which carry the proper nuance in contemporary American English.
We also might have used the terms only fathered, or, only conceived, or, only born. However, none of those words accurately describes the situation of Jesus. For, while he was the only son ever born through a woman to God, He was also the only creature (son, god, or powerful one) that was directly created by God. For, John went on to elaborate on what he actually meant at Revelation 3:14, where he referred to Jesus as ‘the earliest creation of God’ (gr. he arche tes ktiseos tou Theou – or – the most/ancient creation of/the God). And John wrote of Jesus at John 1:3, ‘Everything [else] came into existence through him’ (gr. panta di autou egeneto – or – all by him generated).
So, although the term only created may not be exactly what was said in a word-for-word translation, it appears to be what John meant in this case.
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