Two Beginnings or More. The Nicene Creeds
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Jesus Has Two Beginnings Both Scriptural—Jesus -Second One
Was On Earth –
The more maybe said to be his
resurrection in spirit form materialized to appear fleshly at will. 2 Pet.
Flesh and blood and bone can
not enter into heaven Open =Flesh+and+blood+and+bone+can+not+enter+into+heaven—Add Your Comment.
Who Can Deny That Jesus’
Father and God did not Create The Flesh and Blood (Jesus)-1Cor 5:21
Compare these articles Proverb-8-22-MB –First Born --PreExistenceOfChrist Prov8-22--Prov-8-22-introduction
Beginnings.
He made (Jesus) Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the
righteousness of God in Him. 1Cor 5:21
plus
When Christ came into the
world he said: “‘Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, but you (Yahweh) have prepared a
body for me.
6
“‘You have
no pleasure in burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin.’
7 “Then I said: (Jesus) ‘I have
come in the scroll of the book. It is written about me, to do your will, O
God.’ Open (Jesus)
8 Then he said: “You did not want nor did you approve of sacrifice and
offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin;” which are offered by the
Law.
9 He also said: (Jesus) “I come to do your will, O
God.” He takes away the first in order to establish the second.
10 We are sanctified by his “will” through the offering of the body of
Jesus Christ once for all.- Open << Hebrews 10:4 >>
Nab/bible/hebrews/hebrews10.htm 10.htm#foot3 --0511Strongs-defined-Prov8-22.htm
(Yahweh
)Declared Him By an Angel that His Name-- Would Become Jesus--- Mat 1:20 1:21 Open (Yahweh
)
***Who Makes
Things Become***
Answer---
Jesus’ Father and God Yahweh
Yahweh
Made Salvation Become Real Through What He Created ---
Jesus in The
Flesh----No Mystery Here
http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Yahweh#Meaning According
to one Jewish tradition,
the Tetragrammaton is related
to the causative form, the imperfect state, of the
Hebrew verb הוה (ha?wah; become); meaning
"He
will cause to become"
usually understood as "He causes to become
The
Meaning of Jesus’ Name <1,,2424,iesous> Open Jesus
is a transliteration of the Heb. "Joshua," meaning "Jehovah is salvation," i.e.,
Vine's Expository Dictionary of New
Testament Words
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[With Webster dictionary] [With Roget's thesaurus] [With ->German] [With ->German2] [With ->Russian] [With ->French] [With ->Estonian] [X]
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1Cor
5:21
He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
ton mh gnonta (5631)
amartian uper hmwn amartian epoihsen, (5656)
ina hmeiv genwmeqa (5638)
dikaiosunh qeou en autw.
He will
cause to become"
usually understood as "He causes to become-
http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Yahweh#Meaning
First in
Heaven— Prov
Confirms Gen-1-26
Next Big Confirmations---John
John 1.1 and -- Jesus’
Own Words at John 17-5 says Jesus was*** with*** His Father and God ---He was
Praying to
before the world was. Jesus was
Real before the world was.
17:5
- [ In
Context | Read Chapter | Discuss this Verse ]
[ Original: Greek | Multi-Translation | Make
Poster ]
"Now, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.
No Jesus before Mary
doctrines and Oneness
and Tri-ism Deny the word ***with*** Myths
Word to be only a thought of
Yahweh Some Say
There is no question that Jesus “existed”
before the world began.
But did he exist literally as a person or in God’s
foreknowledge, “in the mind of God?”
Open John 17:5-And
Pre Existence Of Christ.htm
and DenyingJesus.htm
Big
Confirmations Prov8-22.htm Rev 1.1 then Rev
These
things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness,
the beginning
of the creation of God;
Theology in
Harmony from Gen 1:26 3:22 Prov8-22
to Rev 1:1 11:1 Rev
22-16-21 and Heb 13:8.Matt
28:18 .
Tradition
Plus Verses –2 of 3—1 is MysteryVersesPlusMore.htm
3 is Imitate.htm
Who Do You Imitate
-----Man Made Traditions --or Jesus’ Teachinngs and
His Apostles Teachings –Rev Rev22-16-21.htm 22:16-6-19 ( click [In Context|)
Open 2 Tim 3:17- 3:16--http://simplebibletruths.net/Source.htm
-->Imitate.htm
When
the second half of Jn 1.1 is Translated--- the word was God---Instead of God Like—
Which
Means –( Open Theology.htm) The
Image of God in all other Verses—Translators Must
Harmonize God’s
Written
words so---- they do not contradict His Composite Message for us—as----Written
in Heb 1-1-3 and
Which
Means --God’s Spokesman—Rev
3-14.htm the faithful and true witness
Heb 1-3 [In Context]
(GW) His Son
is the reflection of God's glory and the exact likeness of God's
being.
(God Like)
He
holds everything together through his powerful words. After he had cleansed
people from their sins, he received the highest position, the one next to the
Father in heaven.
(
After he had provided a cleansing from sins,
he sat down at the right hand of the Highest Majesty
[ Personal Notes: Add ]
And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power.
When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,
ov wn (5752)
apaugasma thv dochv kai xarakthr thv upostasewv autou, ferwn (5723)
te ta panta tw rhmati thv dunamewv autou, kaqarismon twn amartiwn poihsamenov (5671)
ekaqisen (5656)
en decia thv megalwsunhv en uyhloiv,
Did Jesus Really Say
That the Father is the Only True God? to Worship ”
Open Jesus Worshipers Or Father Only.htm
-From A
Restoration Light Publication
Examining
the Supposed Incommunicable Attributes of God-Open/reslight.net/trinityattributes.html
http://www.2001translation.com/HEBREWS.htm
Heb1- 1-5
1 Long ago, God spoke to our
fathers through the prophets in many places and in many ways. 2 And in the last
part of these days, He spoke to us through a Son who he made the heir to
everything... the one that He used to create the (open) ages. 3 He shines with the same glory, is (open)
the exact image of His
being, and is responsible for everything that’s said through His power. And
after he cleansed us of our sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Great
One in the highest places. 4 He has become so much greater than the [other]
messengers [of God] and so different, that he has inherited a [special] name
among them.
5 For example, to which of
His [other] messengers did He ever say, ‘You’re my son. Today I’ve become your
father.’ Or, ‘I will become his Father and he will become My son.’ 6 And again,
when He brings His (open) firstborn into the
earth He says, ‘Let all of God’s messengers bow low to him.’
Question --Do you see the word substance in any
of the above Translations?
Now Open and Compare These 4
Bibles at once
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Open
Context and Compare and see how many Bibles use the word substance in Verse 3
And the very image of his substance" is somewhat
ambiguous in the common versions; and the scholars give its meaning variously
Vine’s substance----in
Heb. 1:3,
<1,,3776,ouisia>
derived from a present participial form of eimi, "to be," denotes
"substance, property," Luke
<4,,5287,hupostasis>
for which see CONFIDENCE, A No. 2, is translated "substance" (a) in
Heb. 1:3,
of Christ as "the very image" of God's "substance;"
here the word has the meaning
of the real nature of that to which reference is made in contrast to the
outward manifestation (see the preceding clause);
it speaks of the Divine
essence of God existent and expressed in the revelation of His Son. The AV,
"person" is an anachronism;
the
word was not so rendered
till the 4th cent.
Most of the earlier
(RV), marg., "the giving
substance to," AV, "substance," something that could not equally
be expressed by elpis, "hope."
http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Anachronism
- something located at a time when it couuldd not have existed or occurred
One of the most common uses of the term
restricts it to the ante-dating of events, circumstances or customs.
It can be used to imply a neglect or
falsification, whether deliberate or accidental, of
chronological relation.
Example (5)
In Bad Words In The BIBLES.htm
Substance or exact likeness / exact representation----vs---
homoosios (same substance as)
Heb 1-3—10 Bibles at Once Open http://www.greeknewtestament.com/B58C001.htm
homoosios
(same substance as)
So
Why Do People Like To Believe the Unscriptural Word Homoousion
The
only True (BiblicalLOGISTICS.htm) Explanation
is that the men of The
Nicene Creed---- must have thought that
the
Holy Writings were inadequate ---and
that would logically*** insult*** the Divine Author---Or
They were Simply being Fooled
to Please their Father Recorded at John 8 -44 –
The Trinity is a Myth –The
Biggest one ever—Jesus said the Truth will set you Free—He didn’t say a Myth
will set you Free. John 8:32
Here is a Sample of what is in Trinity Reference Library 2.htm
No (4) -- The big thing about
Nicene Creed---- Most held out at first for Scriptural language and expression
to make clear against the Arians what the catholic doctrine had been,
but as the discussions
progressed it became evident that there was no Scriptural vocabulary
which would correctly express the orthodox teaching.
They lighted on a
philosophical term, homoosios (same substance as) to express what they meant
and what had always been the catholic teaching,
but there was still needed a formula to
summarize and convey their meaning----
For Full Article Open http://www.hist.edu/325nice.html
Jesus Has Two Created
Beginnings Both Scriptural------One as the only begotten Spirit son of God
and Then The Flesh and Blood
Jesus---
Did Jesus Teach The Trinity----"If you continue in My word,-----Open TrinitySimplified.htm
The truth will set you free ---He didn’t say a Myth
will set you freee –Open- AFact.htm
The primary reasoning
for--- the word was God----is 'tradition'. In other words,
"As
long as everyone else does it, it must be okay". Open -JOHN1onePLUS.htm
This statement runs true in
the majority of modern English translations-Open-Tradition Plus Verses.htm
John 17-23 ADDITIONAL STUDY For more comparison
· Burton Coffman
· Darby's Synopsis
· Gill's Exposition
· Jamieson, Fausset, Brown
· Matthew Henry Complete
· Matthew Henry Concise
· People's New Testament
· Robertson's Word Pictures
· Scofield Reference Notes
· The Fourfold Gospel
· Treasury of Scripture
· Wesley's Explanatory Notes
http://www.2001translation.com/JOHN.htm#_What_does_In_Mean?
22 ‘I have also given them the
glory that You gave me, so they can be in unity as we are in unity, 23 I in them and You in me. In this way,
they can be perfected into
one, so the world may know that You sent me and that You love them just as You
love me.
What
does exact representation mean in human Language—The Bible interprets
itself
Perfect
in unity of mind ---thought and purpose ---John 17- 22-23
Open Context
John 17:20-23 - [Verse 20 in
Original Greek]
20 "I
do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in Me through their word;
21 that
they may all be one; even as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be in Us,
so that the world may believe that You sent Me.
22 "The glory which You have given Me I have given to them, that they may be one, just as We are one;
23 I
in them and You in Me, that they may be perfected in unity, so that the world may know that You sent Me,
and loved them, even as You have loved Me.
exact
representation Strong’s No.5481
http://www.searchgodsword.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=5481&l=en
1.
the exact expression (the image) of any person or thing, marked
likeness, precise reproduction in every
respect, i.e facsimile
Review
Commentaries.htm The eternal existence of Christ, Is not Biblical –It comes from homoosios
And
the like of----Read AFact.htm And Open AAisJesusRealToYOU.htm
Where I am ...
Prophetically, Jesus was already at home with the Father when this prayer was
uttered. See under John 14:1-3 where the same thought prevails.
"Before the foundation of the world ..." See under
John 17:5 and John 1:1-11. The
eternal existence of Christ, (sbt-notes Bonus) his
deity,
incarnation, and visit to humanity as "the Dayspring
from on high" (Luke 1:78) - these are
all in view here.
The ministry of Christ was but an interlude in the eternal
life of that great "I AM" who was before Abraham was born and before
all creation.
OPEN
THE DEITY OF JESUS CHRIST
I AM God!
I AM The Son of God
WITH
LOVE FOR THE TRUTH—THE WHOLE TRUTH—
–
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