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To start with it is those doing God’s will without adulterating his original word with mystery beliefs--
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Those make it through the great tribulation
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Revelation 7:9 The ones that come out of the great tribulation are the 144,000 plus a Great Multitude,
Called The Great Crowd which no man was able to number.
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“After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands.” Revelation 7:9 << Revelation 7:8 >>
the holding back of the four winds allows for the
salvation of another group besides the 144,000 members of spiritual
7 --13 Reads--And in response one of the elders said to me: “These who are dressed in the white robes, who are they and where did they come from?”
14 So right away I said to him: “My lord, you are the one that knows.” And he said to me:
“These are the ones that come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
15 That is why they are before the throne of God; and they are rendering him sacred service day and night in his temple; and the One seated on the throne will spread his tent over them. 16 They will hunger no more nor thirst anymore, neither will the sun beat down upon them nor any scorching heat,
8 And when he opened the seventh seal, a silence occurred in heaven for about a half hour. 2 And I saw the seven angels that stand before God, and seven trumpets were given them.
The Great Tribulation Starts Commentary It Comes In Phases “Let the Reader Use Discernment”
The “earth” represents the world of mankind alienated from
God. Such a world existed in Noah’s day and, by divine decree, ended with the
Flood. “By the same word the heavens and the earth that are now are stored up
for fire and are being reserved to the Day of Judgment and of destruction of
the ungodly men.” (2 Pet. 3:7) Whereas the Flood destroyed the ungodly all
at one time, the coming destruction will occur in stages during “the great
tribulation.” (Rev. 7:14) In the first phase of that tribulation, God will move
the political rulers of this world to destroy “
“The Elements . . . Will Be Dissolved”
5 What are “the elements” that “will be dissolved”? A Bible dictionary defines “elements” as “first principles,” or “rudiments.” The term, it says, “was used of the letters of the alphabet, as elements of speech.” Thus, “the elements” mentioned by Peter refer to the fundamental things that give the world its ungodly characteristics, attitudes, ways, and goals. “The elements” include “the spirit of the world,” which “operates in the sons of disobedience.” (1 Cor. 2:12; read Ephesians 2:1-3.) That spirit, or “air,” pervades Satan’s world. It impels people to think, plan, speak, and act in ways that reflect the mind of Satan, the proud, defiant “ruler of the authority of the air.”
6 Therefore, knowingly or unknowingly, wittingly or unwittingly those infected by the world’s spirit allow their minds and hearts to be influenced by Satan, so that they reflect his thinking and attitude. As a result, they do what they want, without regard for the will of God. They react to situations on the basis of pride or selfishness, they manifest a rebellious attitude toward authority, and they give free rein to “the desire of the flesh and the desire of the eyes.”—Read 1 John 2:15-17.
10 God’s people once understood that the first phase of the great tribulation began in 1914 and that the final part would come at the battle of Armageddon. (Revelation 16:14, 16; Compare WT April 1, 1939, page 110.) So we can understand why it was once thought that the latter-day “disgusting thing” must have stood in a holy place soon after World War I.
11 However, in later years we have
come to see things differently. On
12 Then a significantly adjusted
explanation was offered: “To correspond with the events of the first century,
. . . the antitypical ‘great tribulation’ did not begin in
13 This has a direct bearing on
discerning when “the disgusting thing” stands in a holy place. Recall what
happened in the first century. The Romans attacked
A Future Attack
14 The book of Revelation describes a
future destructive attack on false religion. Chapter 17 outlines God’s
judgment against “
15 Revelation depicts “a
scarlet-colored wild beast” that exists for a time, disappears, and then
returns. (Revelation 17:3, 8) This beast is supported by world rulers.
Details supplied in the prophecy help us to identify this symbolic beast as a
peace organization that came into existence in 1919 as the
16 Since the start of the great tribulation is yet future, is the “standing in a holy place” still ahead of us? Evidently so. While “the disgusting thing” made its appearance early in this century and has, thus, existed for decades, it will take a position in a unique way “in a holy place” in the near future. As first-century followers of Christ must have keenly watched to see how the “standing in a holy place” would develop, so do present-day Christians. Admittedly, we will have to wait for the actual fulfillment to know all the details. Yet, it is noteworthy that in some lands there is already a detectable and growing antipathy toward religion. Some political elements, in league with former Christians who have deviated from the true faith, are promoting hostility against religion in general and true Christians in particular. (Psalm 94:20, 21; 1 Timothy 6:20, 21) Consequently, political powers even now “battle with the Lamb,” and as Revelation indicates, this fight will intensify. While they cannot literally get their hands on the Lamb of God—Jesus Christ in his exalted, glorified state—they will further vent their opposition against God’s true worshipers, his “holy ones” in particular. (Daniel 7:25; compare Romans 8:27; Colossians 1:2; Revelation 12:17.) We have divine assurance that the Lamb and those with him will be victorious.—Revelation -21.
17 We know that desolation awaits
18 After foretelling ‘the standing of
the disgusting thing in a holy place,’ Jesus warned discerning ones to act. Did
he mean that at that late point—when “the disgusting thing” is “standing in a
holy place”—many people will flee from false religion and take up true worship?
Hardly. Consider the first
fulfillment. Jesus said: “Let those in
19 Jesus did not say that only those
20 How, then, did the comparatively
small number of chosen ones back then act on Jesus’ advice? By leaving
21 Consider, now, the larger fulfillment. We have for many decades been
urging people to get out of false religion and to take up true worship.
(Revelation 18:4, 5) Millions have done so. Jesus’ prophecy does not
indicate that once the great tribulation breaks out, masses will turn to pure
worship; certainly, there was no mass conversion of Jews in
22 We cannot presently have full
details about the great tribulation, but we can logically conclude that for us
the flight Jesus spoke of will not be in a geographic sense. God’s people are
already around the globe, virtually in every corner. We can be sure, though,
that when flight is necessary, Christians will have to continue to maintain a
clear distinction between themselves and false religious organizations. It is
also significant that Jesus warned about not going back to one’s house to
retrieve garments or other goods. (Matthew 24:17, 18) So there may be
tests ahead as to how we view material things; are they the most important
thing, or is the salvation that will come for all on God’s side more important?
Yes, our fleeing may involve some hardships and deprivations. We will have to
be ready to do whatever it takes, as did our first-century counterparts who
23 We must be certain that our refuge
continues to be Jehovah and his mountainlike
organization. (2 Samuel 22:2, 3; Psalm 18:2; Daniel 2:35, 44)
That is where we will find protection! We will not imitate the masses of
mankind who will flee to “the caves” and hide “in the rock-masses of the
mountains”—human organizations and institutions that may remain for a very
short while after
24 There is no reason for us to live in fear of what is going to happen. Jesus did not want his disciples back then to be afraid, and he does not want us to be in fear, either now or in the days to come. He alerted us so that we can be preparing our hearts and minds. After all, obedient Christians will not be punished when destruction comes on false religion and the rest of this wicked system. They will be discerning and heed the warning about ‘the disgusting thing standing in a holy place.’ And they will act decisively on their unshakable faith. May we never forget what Jesus promised: “He that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved.”—Mark .
ONE THOUGH NINE READS
“Let the Reader Use Discernment”
catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation . . . standing in a holy place,
. . . then let those in
OUR being alerted to an approaching
calamity can enable us to avoid it. (Proverbs 22:3) So imagine the situation of
3 After outlining the sign, Jesus
said: “When you catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation, as
spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in a holy place, (let the reader
use discernment,) then let those in
4 The accounts by Mark and Luke
provide supplemental details. Where Matthew uses “standing in a holy place,”
Mark 13:14 says “standing
where it ought not.” Luke adds Jesus’ words: “When you see
5 Jesus urged readers to use discernment. Readers of what? Likely, of Daniel chapter 9. There we find a prophecy indicating when Messiah would appear and foretelling that he would be “cut off” after three and a half years. The prophecy says: “Upon the wing of disgusting things there will be the one causing desolation; and until an extermination, the very thing decided upon will go pouring out also upon the one lying desolate.”—Daniel 9:26, 27; see also Daniel ; .
6 The Jews thought that this applied
to the profanation of the temple by Antiochus IV about 200 years earlier.
However, Jesus showed otherwise, urging discernment because “the disgusting
thing” was yet to appear and stand in “a holy place.” It is apparent that Jesus
was referring to the Roman army that would come in
A Modern-Day “Disgusting Thing”
7 Since World War I, we have
seen the larger fulfillment of Jesus’ sign recorded in Matthew chapter 24.
Yet, recall his words: “When you catch sight of the disgusting thing that
causes desolation . . .
standing in a holy place, . . . then let those in
8 Demonstrating the confidence of
Jehovah’s servants that this prophecy would be fulfilled, The Watchtower
9 The preceding article summarized a clarified view of much of Matthew chapters 24 and 25. Is some clarification in order regarding ‘the disgusting thing standing in a holy place’? Apparently so. Jesus’ prophecy closely links the “standing in a holy place” with the outbreak of the foretold “tribulation.” Hence, even though “the disgusting thing” has long existed, the link between its “standing in a holy place” and the great tribulation should affect our thinking. How so?
Footnotes And Questions
“The Roman standards were guarded with religious veneration in the temples at Rome; and the reverence of this people for their ensigns was in proportion to their superiority to other nations . . . [To soldiers it] was perhaps the most sacred thing the earth possessed. The Roman soldier swore by his ensign.”—The Encyclopædia Britannica, 11th Edition.
should be noted that while the fulfillment of Jesus’ words in 66-
Do You Recall?
□ How did “the disgusting thing that causes desolation” manifest itself in the first century?
□ Why is it reasonable to think that the modern-day “disgusting thing” will stand in a holy place at a future time?
□ What attack by a “disgusting thing” is foretold in Revelation?
□ What sort of “fleeing” may yet be required on our part?
1. The warning Jesus gave as found at Luke , 44 had what outcome?
2, 3. Why should we be interested in Jesus’ prophecy recorded at Matthew 24:15-21?
4. What indicates that Matthew 24:15 had a fulfillment in the first century?
5, 6. (a) Why would readers of Daniel chapter 9 need discernment? (b) How was Jesus’ prophecy about “the disgusting thing” fulfilled?
7. What prophecy of Jesus is being fulfilled in our time?
8. For years, how have Jehovah’s Witnesses identified “the disgusting thing” in modern times?
9, 10. How did an earlier understanding of the great tribulation influence our view of the time when “the disgusting thing” would stand in a holy place?
11, 12. In 1969, what readjusted view of the great tribulation was presented?
13. Why is it logical to say that there will be a future ‘standing in a holy place’ by “the disgusting thing”?
14, 15. How does Revelation chapter 17 help us to understand events leading up to Armageddon?
16. What noteworthy developments are taking place involving religion?
17. Without being dogmatic, what might we say as to how “the disgusting thing” will stand in a holy place?
18, 19. What reasons are given to show that “fleeing to the mountains” will not mean changing religion?
20. How did the early disciples respond to Jesus’ warning to flee to the mountains?
21. We need not expect what when “the disgusting thing” attacks?
22. Our applying Jesus’ advice about fleeing to the mountains may involve what?
23, 24. (a) Where only will we find protection? (b) What effect should Jesus’ warning about ‘the disgusting thing standing in a holy place’ have on us?
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The scarlet-colored wild beast of Revelation chapter 17 is “the disgusting thing” referred to by Jesus
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The scarlet-colored wild beast will lead a devastating attack on religion
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